quote RandomeI think Rockstar are changing their approach to PC.. Max Payne 3 was in development for PC at the same time as the Console versions. The only reason the PC version has been delayed by two weeks is because they wanted to make sure DX11 was working properly. If that is happening then GTA V could very easily be a PC day one release.quote MasterIt would be great if the PC version came out first and then they'd just wait until the next generation consoles come out, to release the console versions, but that's not too likely. The console versions are always released first, or at best at the same time.Maybe they're doing a first-day PC release and the trailer is footage from it.
quote MasterYeah I think GTA V may be on PC straight away.. It wouldn't surprise me if the trailer was from the PC version, but I would also say it would be unfair on Console gamers to tease a game in a visual presentation they won't get. Unless it is on next gen, but if that was the case I'd expect even better visuals than what was shown.. I guess it could be possible for GTA V on PS3 and 360 to look like that, but I would be concerned about texture pop in and object pop in issues, not to mention a rough frame rate.. Will be interesting to see what happens though.V doesn't just have enhanced shaders or filters, it has really detailed models, animation, and higher resolution textures as well. Maybe they're doing a first-day PC release and the trailer is footage from it. If that were so, I wouldn't question it... it's just consoles are notoriously bad at having decent textures.
quote MasterIt would be great if the PC version came out first and then they'd just wait until the next generation consoles come out, to release the console versions, but that's not too likely. The console versions are always released first, or at best at the same time.Maybe they're doing a first-day PC release and the trailer is footage from it.
quote MasterIt's just fine tuned.. It's not next-gen. The PC version of GTA IV with the ICEnchancer mod shows what the engine is really capable of. The mod unlocks it and that shows what next gen GTA will look like..Here's an interesting side-by-side comparison of IV and V:
I dunno... unless they fine-tuned and optimized the hell out of their engine, this MIGHT be a next-gen game. I hope it's a leap forward, similar to how III and SA are so incredibly different but were on the same hardware.
quote MasterHere's an interesting side-by-side comparison of IV and V:
quote ChiroVetteWell Chiro,i hate to break it to you, but it's only gonna get worse from here on in. things will get heavy, like character movement and driving. That's the line R* is taking. And well for myself, i love it. I played SA after IV and i was just thinkin, where is the strategic shooting? Like if i'm in a cop chase, i shoot and run basically the whole time. But in IV, you have different tactics to play around with, taking corners to shake off the cops, hiding behind trash cans so the cops can't see you, and taking cover (i love this feature tbh).quote KR_1250I absolutely HATE the Rage/Euphoria engine, including the driving, and pretty much the entirety of the "heavy" physics of the game. Do I want the game to be glitchy like San Andreas now that we are on a new console? Of course not? But I want my character (like Saint's Row is still doing) to be able to have infinite run and run very fast rather than plod along like Niko does.WOW WAIT !
When some people like Chiro and that were saying they wanted more fun, did they mean getting rid of the physics engine aswell ?
Thats certainly not what i want. I want the realistic physics and car handling with more fun stuff added on top of that. I dont want a return to the shitty arcade car handling of old and jerky character movement, lack of rag doll etc etc etc.
The game engine is one of the best out there, i say use the relism and detail to build a foundation and sprinkle that with rediculous anarchy.
I would never want a return to a more basic game engine. Maybe iv picked this up wrong. I thought the people who didnt enjoy GTAIV would be feeling very positive after that trailer.
What I would like to see from V is a return to not only the wild and wacky gameplay BUT the wacky physics that loosens the game up and causes all kinds of fast paced things to happen while just walking around. For me, I hate realism in games. I can tolerate it from racing sims or even FPS's, but I like my sandbox games to be unrealistic through and through. For my taste, the entire physics in GTA IV seems "bogged down" and restrictive, and again, I am not just talking about the gameplay elements. I tried one of the episodes for a little while on my laptop, where both are installed. I think it was BoGT, but Master can tell you. And you know what? Once I started walking around with the character, got into a vehicle and drive for a little while, I was reminded all over again of why I HATE GTA IV. Mind you, I didn't even play a single mission. Didn't have to. I couldn't even enjoy just *bleep*ing around in the game lol.
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