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PC's not dead
Sean Ridgeley - Thursday, March 20th, 2008 | 3:57AM (PST)


id says core PC gamers are shifting to consoles

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Speaking with Eurogamer, id Software's Steve Nix claims PC gamers, the core ones even, prefer consoles in general.

"I know that I have friends who are considered core gamers, who years ago were just keyboard and mouse guys - now, when a game ships on all platforms, they buy the console version, even though the PC version is sitting there and they have a PC that would run it perfectly well. It's just their preference."

Greg Stone, designer for Nerve Software, agrees:

"For me, I'm exactly what he's describing – I'm a guy that used to play on PCs, and now I'm totally console. It's so much money to keep up with the bleeding edge of technology on the PC, and it really just is easier to take a console and say, well, this is good enough. I think that's the way it is for me, and for a lot of people at this point in time."

But it's not all doom and gloom for the PC sector; Nix acknowledges this is likely a limited trend:

"There are plenty of people who are diehard mouse and keyboard guys that may never go to console, and also right now, if you have the highest of high-end PCs, you're generally going to get a better visual experience. There's no console out there that's as powerful as a God machine right now, with a Quad-Core and a GeForce 8800 - it's very hard for any console to compete with that. So you still have PC players, and some players are just console guys, but have players moved over? Absolutely. We love PC gaming, and we continue to support PC gaming - but you can't ignore the market realities and the size of the console market these days."

Sort of like reading a physical book versus one online, I suspect PC gaming is something that will never go under; it's just too charming and has its own set of things to offer that consoles never quite will. Of course, the line has started to get blurry..

Source: GamesIndustry.biz

Section: PC Games

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March 20th, 2008 4:27AM(PST)
DarkLordAkuma
Ive been a gamer ever since i remember, ive done a bit of both PC and Console. About 5 months ago i was all for console gaming (cos my PC was crappy and i couldnt afford a upgrade)

PC FTW!!!

Now ive upgraded i just think consoles are an inferior gaming machine. Sure theres some good titles on there. But ive noticed the majority of games are half assed pieces of rubbish that dont deserve the title of "Next Gen"

Why on earth you would want to get the console version over a PC version of a multi platform game i do not know. Unreal 3, runs smooth as a babys ass on my PC, lovely graphics (Full Graphics Settings) and nice controls (Using the keyboard and mouse)

I played Unreal 3 on the PS3, and my god i was dissapointed, the frame rate is horrible, the graphics arent as good, the controls are nasty.
March 20th, 2008 4:28AM(PST)
DarkLordAkuma
Oh and to add to my previous post, the PS3 and Xbox360 versions are always more expensive for an inferior version.
March 20th, 2008 7:03AM(PST)
bigjdubb
Why would anyone switch from PC gaming to console??? I have bought and sold both and XBOX 360 and a PS3. I gave them a shot because of all the hype but thats all they are, hype. Console games are for kids and people who have such a hard time accessing their webmail that asking them to install a PC game is asking too much.
March 20th, 2008 9:31AM(PST)
DeathMonkey
I'm sticking to a PC for the rest of my life, consoles just seem so limited to me compared to everything I can get my PC to do. And with a bit of knowledge, the money you save from buying the cheaper PC games can buy you upgrades that will keep your PC going.
March 20th, 2008 9:41AM(PST)
x_revenge
i won't waste money upgrading my gfx card no matter what, overconsuming is one of the biggest problems of the world, why get sth that you already have just coz it's newer or it has some more features?
no game is gonna be released for a console if the console's hardware can't take it so you really benefit more from console gaming than pc gaming
March 20th, 2008 10:44AM(PST)
iamjoe56
Pc's are all well and good, but keeping up with Tech, is hard. :S

Consoles, if the games are programmed and made properly, have no issue at all. Games like COD4 and Gears of War are great examples. As for the PS3, it has games iwth framerate issues alot, sadly. A product of shabby programing.
March 20th, 2008 11:10AM(PST)
VeGiTAX2
Looking more at things dealing with CELL, often is it that problems occur on the SPU's, not because people can't program to save their lives, but because the 256k cache per SPU core is so small that they have to have to be extremely precise on their memory allocation or it'll dive almost instantly as the pipeline bottlenecks.

A lot of the papers at GDC this year talk about the problems of cross platform development and that system and how they're just barely finding ways to try and make it work without needing an entire team on it.
March 20th, 2008 11:32AM(PST)
iamjoe56
Yeah, that makes sense, actually. With PC Processor having Mb Caches now...I can see how getting it to run smoothly would be hard.
March 21st, 2008 3:57AM(PST)
DeathMonkey
I upgrade a part of my PC like once or twice a year and its not having problems running games, you just need to buy the right parts which I understand can be confusing for the average person. But then again my friend started being interested in PC gaming about a year ago and now he knows how to build a computer from scratch. (He's not the smartest of people so it can't be that hard =P )
March 23rd, 2008 6:56PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
If you have the perfect pc, good for you. You can run the current games without lag, problems, blue screen of death, without having to worry about settings. However, if you dont have tha perfect system, the awesome gaming mouse or the keyboard with all the important buttons located near each other, you will have to toggle with settings, which can get annoying and is time consuming, and you might expirience a lot of lag, and online you might be at a disadvantage. Consoles change that. No PS3/360/Wii is better than another. This makes console gaming fair. If everyone has the same stuff, the same system with the same control pad, then it takes more skill to win because no one has any unfair advantages. Also, none or very few console games expirience lag like a pc can (although some console games expirience some lag occasionally, I'm looking at the PS3). Also, you can't hack as easily in console games, and overall more good games come out for consoles. The pc has shooters, rpgs, and rts games. Consoles usually win the game of the year spotlight, with titles like super smash bros brawl getting much more attention than say, Crysis. Even neoseeker is proof of console dominance. The best console games out have much more active forums than the best pc games out. Consoles also allow more than one person to play at once all on one system. Some pc games allow you to do this, but most do not. This save consumer money because they do not need to buy 2 games and 2 systems to play together. Some console games come with more match types or features than their pc counter part (COD 4 prestige mode), or some pc versions expirience bugs or crashes(Gears of war). When you can overcome these obstacles, you get the better version of a game graphically speaking. But for people who just want to play the game, I, and millions of other gamers, stick to consoles.
March 23rd, 2008 8:24PM(PST)
iamjoe56
One thing you got wrong. The wii isn't equal to the others. It is the step down from them.
March 24th, 2008 12:12PM(PST)
GAmer444
Iamjoe56, shut up. If your going to bash a console (which is retarted to do in the first place) atleast support your opinion with facts instead of being an ignorant child and stating that a console is inferior. I bet you don't even have a Wii, if you did you would know that every console is great and no console is "a step down". Its all what you prefer. Besides, JT meant every Wii is equel to another Wii, and every 360 is equel to another 360. Not every console is eqaul.


Same goes for PC gaming. Honestly Jt, if you don't prefer PC gaming, don't post here.

Fanboys these days...
March 24th, 2008 12:20PM(PST)
iamjoe56
hahaha! You don't even have an acount. Go get one the ntalk to me.
March 25th, 2008 1:56PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Although GAmer444 should get an account(you really shoud) he/she is right.I was not saying a Wii is better than PS3/360/PC, I was saying no Wii is better than another Wii. Believe me, I have both a 360 and a Wii, and Wii sports is not beating Gears of Wars graphics anytime soon XD.

Secondly GAmer444, Although this article is called, "PC's not dead", the sub heading says, "core PC gamers are shifting to consoles". This is not JUST for pc people.
This is also for people who like consoles, although a majority of the people here are pc people, and I have nothing against that. Which brings me to my third point. It is not that have have any grudge or hate against pc/pc gamers. I am just voicing my opinion, which is that consoles offer up its own advantages just like pc games do. I am in no means a fanboy- although I am primarily a console gamer, I still game on my pc for rpgs and the like that dont come out for consoles.
March 25th, 2008 2:14PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Sorry to double post, but if you really want a fanboy GAmer444, you should pay attention to other people ( cough* DarkLordAkuma cough*)

Seriously, DarkLordAkuma , It is all what you prefer. No one is stopping you from liking PC, but you dont have to insult consoles and call them garbage. There are much more console gamers out there, so you cant call the console version the, "inferior", version. I'll admit that the PS3 is not looking to hot in this war, which is the reaon I did not buy one. However, gamepads are not what people like you make them out to be.I had been a pc gamer with a merely ok pc, and I didnt want to worry about upgrading so much. I got a 360 and within a week I got used to a gamepad. Although not as precise, it actually helps in some cases to have a gamepad, where is is a little easier sometimes to simutaneosly perform more than one action, over a keyboard. Consoles are not inferior- just not your preference.
March 25th, 2008 2:19PM(PST)
chautemoc
JT> Regarding gaming with PCs and consoles, you said it, sister. Haha.
March 25th, 2008 2:32PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Not ah no u di'nt

sorry chatemoc you made me say that
March 25th, 2008 2:34PM(PST)
chautemoc
Disturbing, but awesome.
March 25th, 2008 2:56PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
So chautemac, what systems do you have? include portable ones too
March 25th, 2008 3:10PM(PST)
chautemoc
It's in my profile, silly.
I've been too poor these last few years to keep up with things..going to be getting all the new stuff soon though.
March 25th, 2008 6:27PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
I am sorry for your situation. Best of luck to you. I meant to add you to my friendslist earlier ( if this thing has that- I dont no, I am kind of new to neo). can you show me how to add you?
March 25th, 2008 6:32PM(PST)
chautemoc
Hahah, there are people suffering far more than I am, dude.

Sure, its easy. Just click on my username anywhere, then click the 'add friend' option in the top right corner.
March 25th, 2008 9:19PM(PST)
iamjoe56
JTGangsta [disturbeing name, first off]. So you gots a 360 huh? You any good at gears?
March 26th, 2008 11:07AM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Oh yeah and if you want to no my gamer tag, It is JT m0nsteR, which is what I want my other account to be called( if that name is disturbing, too bad, I like it). I might not be on live, though- brawl is like crack to me right now.
March 26th, 2008 11:09AM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Lol i am sorry for some reason my message posted 4 times insteaed of once wow I feel dumb
March 26th, 2008 11:48AM(PST)
kspiess
No worries Mr. JT gAnGstA -- I'll erase those for you... one sec...
March 26th, 2008 11:51AM(PST)
kspiess
Whoa erased too many. Sorry about that.

Thanks to the wonders of my browser's back button, here is what JT gAnGstA wrote that I just permanently erased by accident:

"I am more of a COD 4 person. Gears is fun, but I am absolutely horrible at it. As for the name, well, I was in middle school when I made the account. I regret the name now that I am older. In fact, I have been meaning to create another account. I stopped going on neo for maybe like a few years, but now that I have a 360 and Wii I have been on more often. So I feel like I am completely new to neo. Can you have more than one neo account linked to one email?"
March 26th, 2008 1:40PM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Lol that is so wierd its feels like you hacked me but I no you just copy paste my post.
March 26th, 2008 8:03PM(PST)
iamjoe56
lol.
Your name is only disturbing because of the "Gangsta" part. That stuff bugs me. As for LIVE, don't got it yet. Sucks really. But once I get it, my first game online will probably end up being CnC:3.
March 27th, 2008 9:41AM(PST)
JT gAnGstA
Well, middle school was the time period where everyone thought, "gangsta", was cool. Now, If I said, "gangsta", in public, id get jumped XD
March 27th, 2008 11:53AM(PST)
Mikstaslaya
Such off topic comments =|

Anyways, if PCs were only less money, then I would for sure be a PC gamer. The thing is, all PC gaming is about is specs and graphics; everything else is pretty much console ruled. The problem is, of course, it costs about 4 times as much (maybe more) money to get a PC with specs matching that of the 360/PS3. Hell, even getting a PC matching gamecube/xbox/PS2 processing power costs $1,000+ (including monitor, keyboard, ect.), while I could get a 360/PS3 with far superior specs for about 350-600$ depending on which console I choose, if I needed either of the stations that is.

But in all honesty, PC gaming doesn't suck, it's just way too *bleep*ing expensive.
March 31st, 2008 11:10AM(PST)
Bombite
That's why I always look out for game's requirements, and I usually tend to make a good choice for my more or less mid-range PC. Otherwise, I'll just pick up my DS and start playing away. Fricking annoying to always have to try and upgrade your PC's components once a new game comes out...and what's your guarantee that it's worth it? Depends on preference, I guess.
March 31st, 2008 11:33AM(PST)
kspiess
You can make a perfectly capable game machine for like $500 bucks if you got the skillz. (Not including monitor.)

Will say however, that your PC will become obsolete faster than a new console will, however.

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