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Crysis community finds way to get Dx10 features into XP/Dx9
Kevin Spiess - Thursday, November 1st, 2007 | 12:34PM (PST)


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On the Crysis forums, a gamer by the alias of LennyRhys has found an easy way to get the quality of the Dx10 version of Crysis running on XP, in Dx9.

This will undoubtedly prove to be another big embarrassment for Microsoft, as the corporate entity has maintained that Dx10 is only compatible with the Vista operating system, and is incapable of running in XP.

A similar situation happened with the initial launch-game for Vista, Shadowrun. Gamers in the community found a couple of relatively simple steps to enable the Dx10 mode within Vista.

Unlike the Dx10 version of Shadowrun, however, the Dx10 version of Crysis is much better than the Dx9 version, from all reports. Forum dude mail4yootoo had this to say after trying the simple config edits to enable Dx10 features:  "I tried this and I am amazed.  I am even more amazed that it still runs at an almost playable fps." 

Other forum-guy Club Heaven summed up (probably) what many were thinking with his forum post: "I can also confirm this. There is a huge upgrade in image quality coupled with the obvious  framerate drop. Every DX10 effect seems to be present and the game is a lot more playable than under Vista. Plus with some tweaking one could get to an awesome quality/performance compromise. I wonder what exactly do we need DX10 and Vista for ?

So Crytek basically greyed out the very high options under XP, simply because they and their buddies in the industry want us to buy the worthless resource hog that Vista is and the overpriced 8800GTXs. This move on their part is absolutely disgusting. Nothing new of course, but it hurts to see it coming from someone you respected.

Please make this sticky so that more people know they can get better graphics and performance, without hawing to throw more money out the window."

Many people had hoped that Dx10 Crysis would end the trend, common in 2007, of having a huge frame-rate drop in Vista over Dx9/XP, with hardly any noticable image quality improvements in Dx10 mode. And while Crysis (and to a lesser extent, Hellgate: London) have bucked this trend, with superior image quality in Dx10 (compared to Dx9 modes), it does seem that their are only artificial limitiations that prevent these higher quality shaders from being used in Dx9 and Xp.

With this find -- if it's not patched up post-haste by a back-tracking CryTek -- even more gamers will probably decide to stay with XP for the time being, in the interest of better framerates, to better enjoy this excellent FPS. Perhaps more software work-arounds will come out for future games, that will allow the quality of Dx10 to operate under Xp.

Here's a link to the forum thread (which has already been viewed over a 70,000 times since Oct.28th !)

Source: Crysis forums

Section: PC Games

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November 1st, 2007 2:17PM(PST)
bruceleethree
I'd like to know who actually believed Vista and DX10 were exclusive to each other from the get-go?

It was a ploy from the start, to sell their new operating systems and there was probably under the table cash to tout certain titles as DX10 on Vista only.

There's no hardware exclusivity, it's just a programming ploy to coax us into losing money.

I wish there was something like this for BioShock too.
November 1st, 2007 3:00PM(PST)
kspiess
^^^ not me .

And the ease at which the config files could be changed to allow for the dx10 stuff in XP makes me wonder if someone at CryTek wasn't too overtly concerned of this fact coming to light.

Don't worry about BioShock -- Vista performance isn't all that bad compared to XP, and you really aren't missing all that much in terms of graphics either.
November 1st, 2007 4:05PM(PST)
tekmosis
I think some people are getting confused when the term "DX10" is used. This is to blame by developers. For instance, you look up at a tree with the sun behind it in Crysis and:
DX10: You'll see rays of light shining through
DX9: No rays

DX9 is capable of showing things like this. It's not a DX10 only feature. Hence why with a couple of setting tweaks you can see this with XP and DX9.

What Crytek is saying is DX10 is not DX10 and the term / technology is being misconstrued. Chalk this up to Microsoft, Crytek, whoever. What it comes down to is that DX10 features aren't available on XP, it's what the developer claims to be "DX10" which you can obtain. This isn't an embarrassment for Microsoft, it's an embarrassment for Crytek and any other developer trying to pass things off as "DX10". Now, if Crytek were to turn around and say that Microsoft paid them to do this theeen it'll be a big embarrassment for Microsoft
November 1st, 2007 5:19PM(PST)
skatcat31
Actualy what it is is that they did this in the demo. They are using DX9 calls. However in Vista, the DX10 calls for hte same stuff (which happens to be greyed out in the demo)run much smoother and look much more detailed. DX10 is actually worth it.
November 1st, 2007 8:07PM(PST)
VeGiTAX2
Odd, this was one of the first things I changed in Crysis in the MP demo and the SP demo to improve the visuals (although the MP build was awful when i got in anyway) in SP I was able to upgrade many factors in the game via the 3 config areas and easily seal them from future mods by making them read only as well.

You can apply the same ideas to tweaking lower end systems to have more respectable behavior as well. I helped a friend get his X800XL running higher level stuff since the game was rendering things way too low.

10 is still DX9.0L so I'm not suprised to see things like this being an easy work around right now.
November 2nd, 2007 3:05AM(PST)
Hacker & Cracker
Microsoft is able to *bleep* .THE son of bitch billgates has done nothing in vista .Only some Shiny graphics and lol *bleep*able search option.If Billgates is not going to make dx10 on xp than i will show him what can ido. i have made crack for vista .
November 2nd, 2007 3:40PM(PST)
DeathMonkey
you've made a crack for vista? you mean that one that has been around from nearly the time vista was released?
November 3rd, 2007 6:04AM(PST)
Hassan
I love Vista and it contains a lot of more features than DX10 version did
November 4th, 2007 10:35AM(PST)
Bombite
This sounds pretty laughable.
November 13th, 2007 11:05AM(PST)
skatcat31
It's very laughable since those are DX9 screens. They aren't DX10. How can I tell? Look at the blurring effects. The jeep is still visible in great detail even when blurred. In DX10, blurring is done throuhg a different algorithm, leading it to blurr the end of hte jeep more then hte front ad it runs through a particles per polygon system.

This is almost as bad as IGN and Gamespot. They're reveiwing games, FROM THE DEMOS AND BETAS!!! WTF?!?!?

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