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Saturday Special: Games are too easy

Sean Ridgeley - Saturday, December 27, 2008 2:11pm (PST) 0 Favourite (0)

Y'er all a bunch of maggots!

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    gerard way owns you Dec 27, 08
    I'm all for the whole "EASY MODE NORMAL MODE HARD MODE" deal, but I always feel inclined to go Normal.
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    chautemoc Dec 27, 08
    Same. If I dont do Normal I feel like a pussy. Haha.
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    Keefah Dec 27, 08
    I agree with a lot of that. I always enjoyed getting past some really frustratingly difficult points in games, if a game just guides you through the tough bits the experience loses the whole sense of 'oh yeah I did totally beat the hard part.'

    And bragging to your friends becomes pointless because every one's done it first time round.

    I feel we should stick to the way of difficulty settings with clear differences, another example of keeping some difficulty is the Devil may cry series, being pretty hard on its own then trying Dante Must Die mode was always killer.
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    OmegaFury Dec 27, 08
    Me three. I hate going on easy. If I don't pick normal, I know that I'll lose interest in a game fairly quickly.
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    Guest Dec 27, 08
    hard isnt hard enough, with mostly everything.
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    Jarhead255 Dec 27, 08
    quote chautemoc
    Same. If I dont do Normal I feel like a pussy. Haha.
    Funny, if I don't go for the hardest difficulty I can my first play through, I feel like a pussy. I'm going through Gears of War 2 on Hardcore right now. And I went through the first Gears of War on hardcore my first time, too.
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    RabidChinaGirl Dec 27, 08
    I like "accommodating by default." It attracts a wider range of gamer's that way, and the fact that there's an option of going up in difficulty is really a luxury, not a right. We all know how much games cost to make nowadays (whether the big budget is necessary or not, well, that's another discussion entirely), so these companies can't rely solely on hardcore gamers to keep them afloat.

    Also, you know how I feel about Mirror's Edge. I likened the game to Portal because while you generally know where to go, you don't necessarily know how to get there, which is the problem you must solve. Nevermind the fact that there's a 95% chance you're being chased by SWAT guys with automatic rifles or a friggin' helicopter. Now if the game was truly a free world and you had the option of going anywhere, then yeah, Runner's Vision is no good... unless you're that dense. Unfortunately, the game can be deceptive, and even with Runner's Vision as a guide, it only helps so much. It's definitely not a free ride.

    It also bothers me that you're putting down the mechanics of that game before you played through it. :\
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    Jarhead255 Dec 27, 08
    While you bring up a good point, Lydia. I do have to wonder, if you accommodate EVERYONE by default, won't that alienate some of us other gamers? The ones who think Hard is too easy and 'Insane' mode is the only way to go? I wonder if a balance could actually be reached...maybe creating two different A.I. sets and packaging a game in 'Casual' and 'Hardcore' versions.
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    chautemoc Dec 27, 08
    quote RabidChinaGirl
    I likened the game to Portal because while you generally know where to go, you don't necessarily know how to get there, which is the problem you must solve.
    I know, but I want both is what I'm saying.
    Otherwise I'm constantly reminded I'm playing a game, you know?

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    It also bothers me that you're putting down the mechanics of that game before you played through it. :\
    Yeah, it's still up in the air, really, which is why I made it clear I'd only played the demo. Anyone could not pay attention to that entire part if they wanted and I wouldn't be offended or anything.
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    THM Dec 27, 08
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    So why are some games so easy today? At first I'd thought it was due to the nature of the technology at the time.
    Chautemoc, while I agree that some of the current games are getting easier as time goes by, nonethless, have you tried the following hard games on hard modes,

    1. Contra: Shattered Soldiers (Only Jesus can finish this game without extra credits or cheats)
    2. Devil May Cry: Dante Must Die Mode.
    3. Ninja Gaiden: Sigma on Hardest Mode.

    Note: I still have a difficulty in finishing Parasite Eve 2's Final Boss which is so annoying for me personally.
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    chautemoc Dec 27, 08
    Haha, hey, I mentioned Contra and Ninja Gaiden. DMC is definitely up there too. As I noted, certainly I wasn't talking about all games.

    I'd like to play Contra co-op with Jesus.
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    Jarhead255 Dec 27, 08
    I'll see if my schedule is clear sometime, Chautemoc. lol [Had to]
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    chautemoc Dec 27, 08
    Pretty sure Jesus wouldn't join the Marines.
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    Jarhead255 Dec 27, 08
    What's that supposed to mean?
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    Guest Dec 28, 08
    it,s mean you gonna choose Hard Mode difficulty in any type of game you play from the start!
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    OkamiAlucard Dec 28, 08
    So thats what those blue tubes were in Bioshock. I always tried to survive instead of dying like a cheap-o. (and i never did except the once agaisnt the final boss and then i just loaded my save from the door.)
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    Noraf45 Dec 29, 08
    I think that games have definitely gotten a lot easier. I think one of the differences does have to do with what you can do in a game now vs. what you were limited to previously. In an old action game, you had jump and shoot. Now you have jump, shoot, duck, roll, cover, human shield, sidestep, slow time, etc. You can even see the difficulty change through successive installments of the same series when new abilities are added. Look at the classic Megaman series on NES. As it goes on and you have access to sliding and charging your shots, it generally gets easier to overcome enemies. I downloaded the new Megaman 9, and at first I found it fairly difficult because they took away the sliding and Mega Buster, and I kept expecting to be able to use them. It reminded me of the original ones and I found it easier once I got back into the old strategies and limitations. Then I downloaded the Proto Man mode and found it tremendously easier, because he has the slide and chargeable shots.

    Another example that really bugs me is RPGs. RPGs used to be somewhat difficult. If you were underpowered or made foolish choices, enemies and bosses would not hesitate to punish you. You actually needed to spend time leveling and have some strategy for bosses. Now you can run through a game without worrying and usually just power through a boss fight with regular attacks, a cure spell, and wait for whatever super move the game has to charge up so you can win without trying. Mostly this is because RPGs now typically scale enemies based on your own level and it's required by law that they include some form of limit break/ultimate summon/burning strike/etc. Of course, I attribute the RPG difficulty dilution to RPGs becoming mainstream.

    I also think that games now are using achievements as a substitute for difficulty. It used to be that simply beating a game was enough to brag to your friends about, or if you beat it in a certain amount of time or without a certain item you were really good. Now they just have these achievements built in and the only way you can get recognition for being good at a game is to beat a game 6 times in one day without taking any damage, using only the starting weapon, defeating 3 optional bosses that are harder than the last boss, and collecting 37 obscure items that have no other value whatsoever, all without saving once. Before they had these programmed in, people would just make them up on their own, and you still had a dificult game to contend with.

    The objective arrows anad things of that nature I think are a mixed blessing. It is nice to be able to easily figure out what you should be doing, instead of wandering blindly around, but having it constantly there does make it overly simple. I prefer the methods of only bringing it up after a certain amount of time, or if you choose the option, or buying a hint or whatever from a fortune teller. And as far as guides go, I used to go without them, or I'd beat the game then maybe get the guide to make sure I found all the stuff for subsequent playthroughs. But now I have significantly less time for playing games than I did when I was 10, and so it's rare that I get the opportunity to go through a game more than once. So I don't get on anyone for using a guide anymore, because now I use a guide the first time through so that I don't miss anything and so I can maximize my limited game-playing time.
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    kspiess Dec 29, 08
    I agree with Noraf45's great comments above.

    Personally I find the vast majority of games much too easy. I know it is not a good example, but Fallout 3 for instance, combat just became tedious and annoying because it was incredibly easy.

    Pretty much every game I play, I play on the hardest level possible, and that usually works out okay. But overall, ya, games are definitely easier now a days than they used to be.

    Mass Effect also comes to mind. The game was much too easy on Veteran difficulty level, I thought, after about 1/3rd into the game. The game is much more fun for me on Hardcore and Insanity difficulty levels, the two levels above Veteran, but the stupid thing is you have to finish the game on Veteran before to unlock these difficulty levels. Added to the mix you can't skip the lengthy cut scenes and dialogue scenes when playing the game again, so if it wasn't for the cheat codes that unlock the harder difficulty levels, I would have stopped playing the game.


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