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Sunday Special: Video Game Awards and the Fanboy Frenzy
Lydia Sung - Sunday, December 14th, 2008 | 2:31PM (PT) 0 Like


Fanboys continue to weep...

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And tonight, as SpikeTV's 2008 Video Game Awards (VGA) unfold, more will undoubtedly log on their nearest and dearest forum to weep or rage.

A lot of fanboy controversy arose, along with accusations of Xbox 360 favorism, when G4's X-Play announced Fable II as the winner of their Game of the Year award.  The GameGrep post succeeded in attracting fanboy-outrage, and the X-Play site had an even longer string of discontent.  There's a good chance that many of the angriest individuals had never touched Lionhead's recent RPG, typically PS3 fans who cling to the glory of Metal Gear Solid 4 and chase Kojima's coattails.  A handful of posters admit that while they enjoyed Fable II, it certainly hadn't felt like GotY material.

Off the top of my own head, I can name a couple reasons why people would think this; the co-op is clumsy, and the game itself is riddled with bugs.  Though most of the bugs have been quite beneficial so far, I can understand how people think this would disqualify Fable II.  As for the co-op, well, it was a nice addition to the franchise but also unnecessary to the overall experience.  While showing off your Heroes was a nice option, most multiplayer needs could be fulfilled by the option to simply see your friends while they're in the same area -- trading, stats, etc.  That glowing green orb was rather amusing to follow around, anyway.  I could think of more co-op features to improve it, like allowing gamers to use their own Heroes instead of picking from a sad collection of generic models.

But the game succeeds at what it does, and those who listen to the interview with Peter Molyneux following the GotY pick would be able to understand what Lionhead wanted to accomplish with Fable II, and in that context, I believe the game succeeded.  Call me a fangirl for saying this, but this game is as deserving of X-Play's GotY award as any other.

Many no doubt breathed a sigh of relief when Fable II didn't make SpikeTV's list of GotY nominees.  Doesn't mean the strife didn't end, however, as all the PS3 fanboys once again began making threats regarding Metal Gear Solid.  I haven't seen this much whining over something that hasn't happened yet in a very long time, and GameGrep is only one of many Internet forums.

Quite a few of these fanboy laments address the issue following possibility: "If GTA IV wins..."

So what if Grand Theft Auto IV wins?  Will you like your first choice any less?

What rabid fanboys fail to remember is that these awards, at their very core, are based on opinions, and we all know opinions can vary.  That's why there's so much fan drama, right?  Of course they have every right to get upset, but the amount of blind fanboyism can get incredibly irritating when they attack titles that they feel simply are not worthy.

In a perfect world, there would be no war.  In a perfect world, gamers could sit down and hold intelligible discussions as to which games they prefer on which console and why.  Unfounded assaults on fellow gamers and their games of choice only leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouths.  I know, now I'm just dreaming.  But the level to which gamers will stoop, the length to which some of us fall in our blind fandom is truly unfortunate, especially when it drives us to ignorance and outright annoyance.

The bitter fangirl in me hopes that Metal Gear Solid 4 loses to Grand Theft Auto IV just so I can observe the strife that follows.  Otherwise, I think all the nominees are great games, each with their unique strengths and flaws.

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    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Dec 14, 08
    Amen, sister! Hurrrrrrrrr.

    Prefer, now there's a good word. People should really use that more often.
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    Red 9 since Jun 2005 | Dec 14, 08
    The internet is a terrible place. Especially when it comes to gaming.
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    gerard way owns you since Aug 2007 | Dec 14, 08
    I played fable 2 with my friend who bought it, and even HE agrees that the game sucks on many levels. It didnt deserve to win over MGS4 or GoW2

    anyway, yes, as i have said before

    we NEED a PSWII60!
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    oni_hero since Jul 2005 | Dec 14, 08
    Gears of war two didn't do anything new in my opinion. It was just cliffy b going "hey, look at the meat shield, it is so uber and sick!"

    I played most of the games at friends or relatives houses, finishing most of them over several days of visiting, and I honestly see where X-play was coming from.

    Don't give me that "You can do it, but why would you want to" line from the zero punctuation review. Why would you want to? Er, let me see, to do everything there is to do in the game and get the full experience. The only people other then Yahtzee that use that line are fanboys who were so "uber" pissed that Metal gear solid "the movie" didn't win that they wanted to swarm the x-play studio and kill the hosts.

    At the risk of sounding like a fan boy myself, I will say this. I played Metal gear solid 4(the movie) at a friends house as we had a multiple day gaming party, and I honestly thought it was a decent game, but the action in it was too clunky. If they were going for the "He is old so it takes him forever to arm, aim, and fire his gun" reality, they hit it dead on. The game would have been better, if it hadn't felt like I was only interacting with a movie. The cut scenes wheren't so damn long. That right there makes it lose my vote. As for Gear of war 2, I already explained it. Fallout 3, great game, the only other logical choice for game of the year.
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    Red 9 since Jun 2005 | Dec 14, 08
    As much of a fanboy as I will sound, you just lost all credability when you bagged on MGS4 and Gears 2 in the same post.

    Oh, by the way, guess who won the GOTY at the VGA?

    You guessed it: GTAIV.
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    RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | Dec 14, 08
    quote Red 9
    Oh, by the way, guess who won the GOTY at the VGA?

    You guessed it: GTAIV.
    As much as I loved GTA IV, I was honestly not expecting it to beat MGS4. Wow. Thanks for the heads up, Red.
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    Exevier since Jan 2003 | Dec 14, 08
    Seriously, GTAIV wasn't all that great. D:

    I just honestly don't understand the stupid amounts of nominations and awards it's gotten. Maybe it's just over my head, who knows.
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    THM since Jan 2008 | Dec 14, 08
    I reckon that Fable II developers and publishers bribed the Spike's Video Game Award Board deciders!!!! There must be some kinds of corruption going on regarding that Fable II award!!!! Who knows!!!!!

    May be even if MGS4 or GTAIV wins that award, I won't be surprised because genuine good games do not need to be famous by getting various awards. Good games are famous simply because gamers really enjoy playing. For example MGS series do not need to get awards because it is genuinely already famous among gamers around the world.

    Note: Video game award is like Academy Award or Oscar or Golden Globe award, all of those awards are really controversial and sometimes, even the academy award moives are really annoying for some viewers. What is more, sometimes they are really boring notwithstanding its academy badge.
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    RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | Dec 14, 08
    @THM
    Fable II was never nominated for GotY by SpikeTV for their VGA. GTA IV, on the other hand, has already walked away with the award, as Red 9 stated above and a quick Google search confirms. Please pay attention to the article before making such comments.

    I like how the point of my article is completely lost on so many readers. And by "like," I really mean it's so damn sad. People are unwilling to accept the fact that opinions may differ, that some of us really do think Fable II is a great game and deserving of such an award (from X-Play)... that GTA IV, too, deserves Spike's GotY. No, some gamers are just driven to ignorance by their own blind worship of other titles and personal favorites that they're unwilling to recognize the merits of any other.
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    THM since Jan 2008 | Dec 14, 08
    Hee Hee... I feel like confounding sometimes, yeah whatever!!!!!!! Well in that case whatever the company or association that nominates Fable II must have some affiliations with the Fable II's publishers or developers or even prominent fans across the globe!!!!


    Note: I'm not an RPG fan albeit I play RPGs occassionally, I'd love to be happy with either GTAIV or MGS4 getting something that they deserve, don't have to be awards, but these two games are awesome, for the Fable II, I do not have Xbox 360, as a matter of fact, I did not have a decent chance to paly for a while, may be I might try Fable II in the near future..........
    Again, I'm glad that Fable II didn't get award, Hee Hee........

    I understand the article clearly, and now I'm off to watch Batman on Blu-ray, Hee Hee.....
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    tallteen86 since Feb 2003 | Dec 15, 08
    TBH, I don't pay too much attention to award shows...

    I've not played all the games, but eh.

    GTA IV wasn't great
    Fable II I didn't play (might eventually....Probably will TBH)
    MGS4 - Didn't get far in >_>
    GoW2 - Don't have, probably never will...
    Fallout 3 - I've played this more than the others I think >_> I find it more fun than the others by far....

    That's just me though.
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    kik36 since Apr 2007 | Dec 15, 08
    Don't own a 360 so didn't play any of the XBOX games.......didn't play MGS4 either. I'm a little surprised Mega Man wasn't on the nominee list, I'm assuming it's because it wasn't released on disc.

    GTA IV was extremely lacking.....the reason why is because it wasn't a "Grand Theft Auto" title. You would have to play the rest of the titles to fully understand that. That is why a decent amount of Grand Theft Auto fans were bummed about GTA IV. And we don't even need to get into the 10/10 bullshit scores it was receiving across the board.

    Gears of War looks like a great game and LittleBigPlanet should have been seriously considered.....but with all of it's beginning hiccups I could see where they would knock it down a few.

    But the REAL game of the year SHOULD have been The World Ends With You for the DS. I know I keep bringing it up, but it really is that good and puts all of these lame ass games to shame!!!!!!!
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    ShadowJ since Jan 2003 | Dec 15, 08
    Me thinks RCG is abit sore due to GoW or GoW 2 not getting anything

    To be honest I see what you are getting at but personally I don't get why Fable II would win any GOTY award when considering most of the other nominees are actually better titles. Yes I haven't played Fable II and unless ported to PC, I never will. However considering the facts a) there is a place/DLC named after Sonic the hedgehog's hiding place (Knothole)...doesn't give me much hope already b) half the content/features that was meant to be in the game were lied about or not even in the game c) the first fable was 12 hours long...unless they have really turned the heating up and shifted gears, I don't see the game lasting much longer than 20-30 hours...which is still less than a Bethesda Softworks expansion d) The game isn't free roaming as far as I can find out.

    Then again there maybe other players that think differently, hoperfully there actually are others that think diffferently but that is why I feel why Fable II shouldn't get GOTY...at least my reasoning can actually be summed to saying "it sucks" though
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    bruceleethree since Nov 2005 | Dec 15, 08
    VGA's sucked as usual, I especially loved how Gamestop concluded every world premiere, as if this show wasn't a giant advertisement already.

    And what doesn't make sense, the industry makes more than movies yearly yet they still have to advertise the crap out of their products every chance they get?

    Anyway, I'm not sure if I was the only one who felt embarrassed when models and rappers are talking about video games, people who don't know anything about them. I really think the VGA's do not know how to make an award show for gamers.

    I only tuned in for the GoW 3 teaser which sucked mad balls and thankfully it was in the beginning so I could tune out asap and go watch Dexter and Californication.
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    Noraf45 since Sep 2008 | Dec 15, 08
    People actually care about video game award shows?!?!? Holy crap!

    I remember watching the first vga on spike several years ago, and I was bored to tears. "Hey look, it's random football star here to talk about a game he has nothing to do with and likely has never played! 'it's awesome' he says as he drinks his mountain dew with some obnoxious butt rock playing in the background. let's give it 10 awards!" I quickly gave up on those. I enjoy reading "top 20 games of the year" articles in magazines, because they take the time to explain their choices, and even if I'm not happy with all of the choices or the order, I understand them. People just need to relax about what people think about their favorite games. So what if your favorite game of the year was only seen as being the third-best game by some people?

    And not to join the weepy fanboy population, but X-play does show incredible favoritism to the 360. It has since it was launched. I remember their review of DOA 4 (I think it was 4, whatever the one released at the start of the 360's lifetime was). The entire review they complained about so many features, including the online multiplayer. It was a terribly negative review, and then they gave it 4 out of 5. My wife, who hardly ever touches a video game or pays any attention to video game news/shows, even commented on how biased they seemed to be when she watched a couple episodes with me. But I digress. X-play was a good show that went down the toilet a long time ago.
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    bigjdubb since Jan 2008 | Dec 15, 08
    MGS sucks a duck and i am just now getting into GTAIV since it was just released, but so far it seems great. I agree for the most part with the article but lets be realistic, most of the gamer BS comes from the console loving portion of the community... one day they will grow up.
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    RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | Dec 15, 08
    quote Shadow J
    Me thinks RCG is abit sore due to GoW or GoW 2 not getting anything
    Sorry, I'm not so petty. My gripe isn't even about the award shows themselves. Hell, I don't even watch them anymore... just look up the results afterward.

    If you're pointing your finger at me, you've missed the whole point of the article. I'd thought about including my own fandom for Gears of War but the results weren't out yet so I didn't want to go around jumping the gun on any of the other categories. I like the franchise, but do I think it was GotY-worthy? Compared to the other nominees, not really. If it didn't win anything, why should that affect my appreciation for it though? Ah, but it doesn't.
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    gerard way owns you since Aug 2007 | Dec 15, 08
    I dont believe in game awards for this reason.

    it is too influenced by media. if a celeb has x box, guess what everyone gets...xbox. thats just how it is. the games that deserve recognition, dont always get it.
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    ShadowJ since Jan 2003 | Dec 15, 08
    quote RabidChinaGirl
    quote Shadow J
    Me thinks RCG is abit sore due to GoW or GoW 2 not getting anything
    Sorry, I'm not so petty. My gripe isn't even about the award shows themselves. Hell, I don't even watch them anymore... just look up the results afterward.

    If you're pointing your finger at me, you've missed the whole point of the article. I'd thought about including my own fandom for Gears of War but the results weren't out yet so I didn't want to go around jumping the gun on any of the other categories. I like the franchise, but do I think it was GotY-worthy? Compared to the other nominees, not really. If it didn't win anything, why should that affect my appreciation for it though? Ah, but it doesn't.
    No wasn't point the finger at you...wait a minute *Beats the eye rolling smilie to the end of the comment quoted*

    The part aimed at you was a mere joke as noteing from your blogs I gathered you loved GoW, thus put 2 and 2 together, you have my wonderful usage of a sense of humour not communicating well over the internet
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    RabidChinaGirl since Oct 2007 | Dec 15, 08
    @ShadowJ
    Yeah... we went through this on my blog. Some stuff just doesn't come across the net very well, I guess. Sooorry, though I don't think you should be criticizing a game you've never played, unless you came up with more sound reasons.

    Side note, looked up the results, and Gears 2 did take home a couple awards. Huh. Not bad, not bad at all. <3
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    | Dec 15, 08
    I played Fable II and it definately brought some new things to the action/rpg genre. The game was fun and I have played through a few times already, but the really dissappointing part of the game and the reason I believe it doesn't deserve game of the year is the very simple fact that the final 'boss battle' is a cut scene where you hit him once and it is all over. I want a patch that gives me an epic battle at the end of the game.

    GOTY should go to a truly inventive game. Not any game that is just more of the same old stuff as its previous versions.
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    oni_hero since Jul 2005 | Dec 15, 08
    quote Red 9
    As much of a fanboy as I will sound, you just lost all credability when you bagged on MGS4 and Gears 2 in the same post.

    Oh, by the way, guess who won the GOTY at the VGA?

    You guessed it: GTAIV.
    At the risk of sounding like a complete asshole. Why would that make me change my mind? I lost credibility with some people online... Woopppeeedddoooooo! I am not some pro gamer or professional critic, I am a gamer who likes certain things more then others. Sure, Gears2 and MGS4 were good games, but gears was, in my opinion, a rehash of gears1 with the "Meat shield" thrown in to distract. MGS4 was too much story for my liking, as only a rabid fanboy of the series can really follow the story.
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    gerard way owns you since Aug 2007 | Dec 15, 08
    MGS4, no, the entire MGS series, are great both game play and story wise. They revolutionized stealth-action, and they have an amazing story line. If you play a game that is clearly a sequel (MGS4) and then say the game has to much story that only "rabid fanboys" can enjoy (and yes, I take offense to that remark), then I say you have no right. You would only have the right if you had played all of the other MGS games to follow the story. Good day, sir...I SAID GOOD DAY!
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    clint since Dec 2008 | Dec 20, 08
    ok i have noticed by now that alot of you people have a favorite game and i must saw i do to. i love fable 2 but i know that gta4 was a good game but it seems kinda empty to me. any way please give credit to all the games and stop being so tunel visioned!! check out atleas 2 of these games before you poo all over all but one of them!!! consider what i said and comment away. a CLINT inc. post.
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    | Dec 21, 08
    LOL GTA4? R U SRS?

    Ok, really, GTA4 looked nice, had a vast city, but the missions--what Niko was actually doing--were crap. Car chases. Thats it. I got pretty bored of the story really quickly. And Roman, would you please stop calling me? Go dig yourself a hole and stop getting into trouble, you loudmouthed PoS.

    I would expect any other major title on XBOX360 or PS3 to get GotY, but GTA4? Really? Come on.

    On one gaming site, their GotY was Fallout 3, which I just rented. I really like it and might have to ask for it for Xmas.
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