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Rockstar faces the music
Sean Ridgeley - Saturday, December 6th, 2008 | 11:07AM (PT) 0 Favourites (0)


Company interviewed regarding GTA IV PC issues

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In the editorial on Grand Theft Auto IV's Digital Rights Management (DRM), I had praised the company for being open about its usage, but well, slammed them for using it. This one, I predict, will run similarly, in light of the company's recent interview with IGN about all the technical issues users are having with the game on the PC, which have been posted all over online, including our own forums.

First, note that a patch is in the works, as expected, though no timeframe is given. As for that texture problem Steam users are having, it has "since been addressed", though it's not made clear how. In any case, Steam is nice enough to offer refunds on the game for those unsatisfied (details here). Some more helpful links will be posted at the bottom of this article.

Three guys from the GTA IV team sat down for the interview, the first part of which is particularly interesting...

IGN: Just to start out could you give us a sense of how widespread the problem actually is because it's difficult to tell from looking at message boards.

Kevin Hoare: I guess that's really hard to determine. The only thing we really have to go on in that regard is support calls we've been getting which have been quite low or as expected, which I think is roughly around one percent…It seems like maybe these forum posters are the more outspoken percentage of the players. That's really the only thing we have to go on as far as numbers go.

That's funny, since our reader Daniel King pointed out the other day they were blocked:

"We are aware that a small number of fans are having problems running GTA IV on their PCs"

Are they serious? These guys are becoming politicians. When will people accept their responsibilities. The game runs like utter crap on even the newest PCs. I have the PS3 version, but still went out and purchased the PC version. My PC is a few months old and can be considered "high spec". Even on the lowest settings, the best FPS I get is 17. I cannot log into the social network and windows live crashes every time I try to log in, which means I cannot save any progress even if I wanted to play the game. I have spent days trying to resolve the problems. This is a complete waste of time of the game was released too early. I opened a trouble ticket with 2K Games and the poor support engineer told me they are overwhelmed with GTA IV PC customer problems.

Sounds like doublespeak on Rockstar's part, to me.

As for the matter of settings, the company's Kevin Hoare confirms users shouldn't let themselves be bent on playing the game with the highest settings, as when they were designing it, "it was with the intent of having future growth with the game." Perhaps they should have told users this before releasing it, though? I guess that would have lowered sales, at least in the short-term...

In any case, I like team member Jeronimo Barrera's style:

"Let's not beat around the bush here. There's a lot of noise like this game doesn't run at all or there's missing textures and everything else. From what we've gathered a lot of those problems are either out of date drivers or we don't support that type of card or you're underspecced or whatever, it's always a combination of one of those things, it's not necessarily that we don't know what we're doing because obviously we put in hundreds and hundreds of hours of test into this. From what we did and from going through certification with Microsoft and our external QA process we didn't run into the amount of problems that the boards seemed to be saying there are."

Anyhow, they do feel the majority of users will be happy once the "growing pains" are gone, and the majority of users are happy. IGN, bless them for it, ends off the interview like this:

IGN: In the meantime you've got these people online who are pretty angry at you, to say the least. Is there anything you'd like to say to them?

Jeronimo Barrera: We stand behind our product and we'll get you help and it's easy to reach us. We do find the forums to be a very useful resource for us to identify problems that everyone's having…The game has been out less than a week and we are trying to address everything. In the long run we're going to keep supporting the title. It's not a one-shot deal. As much as people don't like to hear the word future-proofed but it is future-proofed and there's a lot in store for gamers.

 

Rockstar Games GTA IV PC support center

Steam GTA forums

New NVIDIA drivers for GTA IV (ATI drivers coming Wednesday)

Source: IGN

Section: PC Games

  • 0 thumbs!
    teodortenchev since Apr 2003 | Dec 6, 08
    And the GTA drivers are incompatible with my nvidia 9700M GTS. Nice
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    THM since Jan 2008 | Dec 6, 08
    Note: To all PC gamers, don't get frustrated by this problem, it will take sometime to fix, in the meantime, if you cannot wait, just buy a favourite console, PS3 or Xbox 360 depends on your budget and get the console version and play it peacefully for the rest of your life in your little cozy room. PC games as always give dramas to gamers.
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    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Dec 7, 08
    Sage advice, THM.
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    gerard way owns you since Aug 2007 | Dec 7, 08
    Seriously, I'll get flamed to hell for this, but the GTA games are not as great as people make them out to be. Granted that yes, using cheats to get a helicopter and then go to the top of the tallest building, spawning a motorctcle, and recklessly driving off the edge is fun, thats about all that makes the game fun. doing stupid stunts.
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    Kuduros since Nov 2001 | Dec 7, 08
    That interview is shocking. It sounds like the kind of self righteous shite that EA come out with and really is disappointing to hear staff of the Houser brothers' company making such insulting statements towards their customers. Rockstar were always considered by me to be one of the most highly passionate games companies in the industry until I read that interview and now it's hard to tell what drives them.
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    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Dec 7, 08
    To some extent I agree, gerard. I like them but to think of how much the series has made seems a little absurd. Personally I loved III and once I had finished that I had no great desire to play the rest (I've tried them and never got hooked like I did with III). It seemed like maybe they accomplished everything they needed to in that one..
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    ShadowJ since Jan 2003 | Dec 7, 08
    quote gerard way owns you
    Seriously, I'll get flamed to hell for this, but the GTA games are not as great as people make them out to be. Granted that yes, using cheats to get a helicopter and then go to the top of the tallest building, spawning a motorctcle, and recklessly driving off the edge is fun, thats about all that makes the game fun. doing stupid stunts.
    Got it on PS3 since release date, still only have 25% completed and hardly play it now. When I do it is usually to annoy the cops and go on killing sprees while robbing cars
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    Guest | Dec 8, 08
    Kuduros, your comment "it's hard to tell what drives them" might be the fact they are now owned by Take-Two. I was a loyal fan that played the original 1997 PC game. This recent debacle smacks of Take-Two looking to maximize short-term profits and to hell with the quality of the product. I would have thought games publishers would be watching the mistakes Funcom made with their Age of Conan title. It was also released with major problems and initially Funcom denied they had any issues. Take-Two is currently trading at $12.10, down 50% in three months. Perhaps this has something to do with Rockstars failure to admit the widespread problems and the gearing up of its PR team to play down any negative comments.
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Dec 8, 08
    The more interesting and realistic statistic is that probably only like 1 out of 500 people who have technical problems with this PC game will actually call tech support --generally calling tech support is about as useful as tossing your computer off your desk, and then trying to judge from they way that it bounces how many drivers you have to reinstall.
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    chautemoc since Mar 2008 | Dec 8, 08
    Hahah. Good point.
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    leoknight since Dec 2008 | Dec 9, 08
    [the company's Kevin Hoare confirms users shouldn't let themselves be bent on playing the game with the highest settings, as when they were designing it, "it was with the intent of having future growth with the game."]
    That's just a load of crap.. First of all, while I am aware of my system meet the recommend system requirement doesn't mean I can run the game in highest setting but I should be able to run in high setting at the very least. Second, high setting is designed for the intent of having future growth with the game. What kind of pathetic and unacceptable excuse is that! in other word, you're telling me if I want to play the game with high quality graphic I have wait for 1 or 2 years with new gaming PC. Finally, with so many technical issues with the game, I am starting to wonder is the company paying the game critic to write those reviews for their game? like IGN: 9.2 out of 10 and Gamespot 9 out of 10. Are you kidding me with title that poorly optimized for PC as well as many of technical issues in the game earned excellent score, no way I'll say no matter how great this game is with such major technical issues around that is not going to earn any higher than an 8 at the highest.
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