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ATI HD5870 rumors: 1.5 TFLOPS, 40nm, 1000+ shaders, and...multi-core?
Kevin Spiess - Friday, October 24th, 2008 | 11:58AM (PT)


Kühlkonzeptes! That's what some zany Germans are saying

ATI HD5870 rumors: 1.5 TFLOPS, 40nm, 1000+ shaders, and...multi-core? Image 1

Some hardware loving Germans have come up with some "neue" details regarding the RV870. The details are said to come from an inside source.

Here's the break down: the GPU is going to be a 40nm part. It's going to have 1/4 (or +%25) more shaders compared to the HD 4870. The theoretical computational horsepower is going up to 1.5 TFLOPS, which is pretty insane (the HD 4870 has about 1 TFLOP.) 

I'm not sure if this is a translation error, or so some sort of hardware-freaks kinky pet-name, but the new card appears to have the code-name Lil Dragon. Not sure if this is an internal codename or just something some German writer guy with a job similar to my own just came up with just now to throw me off.

The GPU will be very tiny. The die is supposedly 205 mm². Compare this to the RV770 being 256 mm², and the GTX 280 being a big 576 mm².

DirectX 11 is most certainly going to be there. DX11 is generally accepted to be happening in mid 2009, probably with the first DX11 games coming out in the third quarter of 2009. My prediction is going to be that DX11 will actually bring some significant changes, and will exist, unlike DX10, which came (and will leave) with hardly anyone noticing. (And no, you will not have to upgrade to Windows 7 for DX11 -- it'll be a download for Vista.)

ATI looks like it'll stick with GDDR5 memory, tied to a 512 bit memory interface. The source pins the memory bandwidth at 150-160 GB/s, which seems completely reasonable.

And here is where things get really interesting. The HD 5870 supposedly uses some sort of cooling that ATI hasn't tried before. And thanks in part to the small size of the GPU, the HD 5870 X2 is going not have two seperate GPU's -- instead it will be two RV770 cores stacked on top of each other, sort of like Pentium-D style.

If this is the case, theoretically you could put three HD5870X2 into one motherboard, giving you like six times the power of one of HD5870 -- now that'd be performance. Of course, back in the real world, things don't scale very well after 3 GPU's are CrossFire'd. But who knows, maybe ATI will work some CrossFireX magic up, who knows.

Disclaimer: These are all rumors. All these specs seem sort of reasonable and makes sense, but none of this stuff is confirmed.

 

 

Source: Das ATI Forum

Section: Video Cards

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  • 0 thumbs!
    kspiess | Oct 24, 08 | quote
    Oh the Barracuda is pictured above for no reason. I just think it is a cool car.
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    VeGiTAX2 | Oct 24, 08 | quote
    Hopefully they do cross the hurdle with 3x crossfire to really make use of all these advancements, they have a lot of toys to show off but the execution takes so long with ATI right now. :/ maybe we could all pool some money together to hire a guy with a whip to chase those programmers.
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    bruceleethree | Oct 24, 08 | quote
    if they pump it up to 512-bit memory or even 1024-bit im sold. and need at least 1GB ram on that thing and make it $400<

    They will destroy Nvidia and that greedy huang.
  • 0 thumbs!
    kspiess | Oct 24, 08 | quote
    I would guess that the HD 5870 will come in 512MB and 1GB variations.

    1024 bit mem. interface seems really unlikely. It most definitely will be a 512 bit.
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    fudgeboy | Oct 24, 08 | quote
    wow, am defiantly looking forward to this beast, but for the moment i think i'll grab a 4850....
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    Kyle | Oct 26, 08 | quote
    If the above is true that would be amazing. But keep in mind that before the 4870 came out it was thought it would have something around 400 stream processors and that they would be clocked higher the the core clock. I am not certain that ATI will go with a 512 bit bus because with R700 they went with just a 256 bit bus for the reason they got their banwidth from the gddr5 memory. I suppose it is plausible though because of the power savings of 40nm. It would be incredible if they can pack all that performance mentioned in the article in that die size.

    I think it will be a while before we ever see a 1024 bit bus in a graphic card. Maybe at 22nm.
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