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E3 2008: just not the same
Sean Ridgeley - Friday, July 18th, 2008 | 8:48AM (PT)


Where da party at?

Sure, E3 has brought us lots of goodies, news, screenshots, trailers and all that fun stuff this year, but what about the dark, seedy underbelly? Industry executives, at EA and Ubisoft no less, are slamming the conference following its end.

Being interviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle, EA boss John Riccitiello said, "I hate E3 like this. Either we need to go back to the old E3, or we'll have to have our own private events."

Ubisoft's head Laurent Detoc echoed his sentiments: "E3 this year is terrible. The world used to come to E3. Now it's like a pipe-fitters show in the basement." Rightfully declared, most would say; E3 was once something of a party in itself, where 60,000 gamers, execs, developers and booth babes alike would rub elbows. Now? A 5000 invite-only press affair. So discreet!

Moreover, the event used to take place in May; Ubisoft VIP Alain Corre says this choice of setting was critical:

"It's one milestone in the communication of your products throughout the year, and it's important because it's the ramp-up for Christmas. [But] E3 here, mid-July, in the Convention Center in downtown LA - it's not appropriate I would say."

Even Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto has his concerns, which he voiced to MSNBC:

"For a very long time, E3 was an event where — and certainly Nintendo included — catered specifically to the core gamer. Now we look at more … an opportunity for us to introduce new concepts and new types of play that we intend to bring to the broader audience, particularly because of the media that gathers at E3 now.

So while attending an E3 event like this, they might be given the impression that Nintendo is no longer focusing on the games that appeal to the core gamer, in fact we’re still working on many of those titles, but it’s just not the type of event where we’ll be showcasing that anymore."

Of course, all this disdain and concern is useless without some action: will E3 be the same again next year, or will folks like John Riccitiello stick to their word and flat-out abandon it if nothing changes?


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Source: Eurogamer

Alternate Source: EDGE

Section: Console Games, PC Games

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July 18th, 2008 10:59AM(PT)
RabidChinaGirl
I liked E3. I think perhaps the issue is not E3 but the contents presented at this year's convention. Much of it failed at wow-factor (SCEA *cough cough* but they haven't filed a complaint about it, based on this article), but I actually thought Ubisoft had one of the more impressive lineups. It's a shame that Detoc would think that it wasn't enough. As for Nintendo, well, I think everyone knows by now their conference may as well have been a complete sham.

And what about those who walked away with smiles on their faces? Like Microsoft, or Capcom and their Resident Evil hype? Bethesda? Square-Enix? Take-Two? Valve? You know, all the other companies showing there. Some of the reps/devs were actually quite EXCITED about their work, and that's honestly a refreshing change from these stuffy execs who stand there on a giant stage sounding rehearsed (not pointing any fingers). EA (give us something other than Spore and Mirror's Edge to cheer about, THEN complain), Ubisoft (bless their hearts), and Nintendo are just a sampling, and I honestly don't see them leaving E3 any time soon. That'd just be suicide.

Sure, it wasn't the way it used to be, but I saw people of the press from around the WORLD. E3 has changed, but it isn't dead. Perhaps the disgruntled ones don't realize that catering to the press can be trickier than if the audience were just a bunch of GameStop employees? You know, people who read and write about them, keep up with their news, have opinions of their own rather than slobbering all over them like they were gods.

It's an interesting point to make, but it'd help to get some feedback by going to the event (speaking of international, I saw Eurogamer folks there). As for Rick Perry? Seeing the governor of Texas listed on the brochure was NOT appealing. On the other hand, the conferences held by gaming companies were PACKED. Ubisoft ran out of seating.
July 18th, 2008 11:13AM(PT)
VeGiTAX2
I think the biggest mistake on the planet by people who haven't attended the show ever is the assumption that E3 was ever for "the gamers" the people who got into E3 that weren't in the actual industry were wal-mart workers, best-buy workers, target workers, gamestop workers and others exploiting the title of "Sales associate" and buying their way into the show.

Picture the BF2 fan video mine, and instead of them running place to place trying to get the chopper they were instead running booth to booth begging for free shirts and camping all over demo stations for hours ignoring the lines of people behind them.

Odd that people would go on about E3 needing to be old, it was the cry of people like EA and others that brought about changes to the format as well since they were spending huge amounts of money on promotional materials and sets and "actresses" to play the role of a booth girl.

There's an epic difference that people often don't understand and that's because they didn't watch the show unfold as it did from earlier in 2000 to now. 06 was a mess in many senses.

If companies like EA and Ubi wanted big public shows they could easily do E 4 All but guess what, they bailed out last year, and chances are they'll fail to show again this year but they'll still beat that drum about where they want things to go.

Until they actually test those avenues presented to them for public shows of epic magnitude they really should watch their statements since it makes them seem quite a bit foolish.
July 18th, 2008 11:17AM(PT)
RabidChinaGirl
Ugh, E4All... waiting an hour in line to play 15 minutes of MGS4 was NOT pleasant. I much preferred just waiting 10 minutes to play 15 minutes of Fable II at E3.

But Vegi has a point because E4All was very open, and you can really feel the difference by just standing in the exhibition hall (both were at LACC) and just looking around for 10 seconds. It was meant to be an answer for those who preferred the old E3, but I think the companies are just behind and need time to adjust to that.
July 18th, 2008 11:46AM(PT)
VeGiTAX2
I should note also that the real parties for E3 that have always gone on have never been in the LACC, the real magic of E3 comes at the after hour parties hosted by the industry. Harmonix kicked down a party which killed many with a live performance by the Who on day 2 that seems like it will live on in the minds of devs, executives and journalists for ages.
July 18th, 2008 11:54AM(PT)
Wolfwood
E3 had its roots as a humble trade show like CES, but when gaming became macho and all the rage, the companies with the bucks let their imaginations run wild. Remember GodGames' "Gathering of Goodness"? Then they said it cost too much. Now they're complaining again!
July 18th, 2008 3:44PM(PT)
THM
E3 is just a sham. Everything they show at E3 did not come out as they originally presented. E3 maily fools the navie public and misled the audiences with high-expectation.

Remember the PS3 in E3 2005 and 2006, with 6 USB ports, 2 Ethernets, and backward compatibility promise, they are all charade and Sony and E3 shows significantly misled the public.

All in all, I repeat, E3 is just a sham. People are fully aware of developers and manufactures' shrewd plans and promises. That's why they don't have much people at this time.
July 18th, 2008 5:19PM(PT)
VeGiTAX2
Odd the 20 and 60 at launch had BC. That really was misleading of them to do such a thing.

Why not actually compare the event as a whole instead of just single companies, you realize that there are publishers, developers, hardware companies and so on also there. I don't recall the G5 being announced and getting a MS Basic Optical mouse instead...

Everything has faults, why not fault CES for so many products that never show up? I guess that'd be asking too much though.

As for Sony axing BC, blame them, the ESA can't mandate that they continue to eat hundreds in profit per unit and make them stick it out. Maybe if people actually put up a fuss instead of bending over and buying the 80 they would have been able to do something different since 80's would have just been sitting without buyers.
July 20th, 2008 12:28PM(PT)
Redemption
I still think E3 is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. The information is still interesting, and there are always the gems that stand out. However, I do believe they should have just kept the old format with more restricted access requirements (which is what they were doing every year until they suddenly made that huge drastic change to cut the show down).

Taking more drastic measures in future E3's will yield no better results (ie bringing back the E3 2006 style show). They just have to refine it year by year, while gamers support the show with constructive criticism and feedback on how to make it better.

Btw isn't the success of PAX an indication that gamers want a more public show?
July 20th, 2008 2:54PM(PT)
VeGiTAX2
I think the industry is still lost on what they want to do with themselves. They started jumping on board with E 4 All and then they ran away from it shortly before the show went down. From only MS signing on this year it seems like they're going to have a hard time pulling together a lineup for 08.

=/ It'd just be nice if they all agreed on a format instead of sitting on their hands half agreeing with things and then going "see I told you so" after its all blown.

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