Neoseeker : News : BioWare showcases Josephine, new Dragon Age: Inquisition character romanceable by any gender
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Xeros the Slayer Jul 9, 14
Someone on BSN was angry that she was confirmed romancable so quickly. Apparently it gives the implication that non-white women are around for sex and not much else and has nothing to do with Bioware being barraged with "can we *bleep* it?" whenever a character is announced and just getting tired.

Anyway, cool, I didn't expect antivans to get involved let alone to have one as a political advisor.
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Lizbien Jul 9, 14
Xeros the Slayer Lol I love when people jump straight to complaining about romances as if their only perk is sex. Like character development and relationships means shit all so long as sex is there to "mess it all up". So silly~
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Xeros the Slayer Jul 9, 14
quote Lizbien
Xeros the Slayer Lol I love when people jump straight to complaining about romances as if their only perk is sex. Like character development and relationships means shit all so long as sex is there to "mess it all up". So silly~
Bioware games have very little casual sex outside of jokes and treat physical intimacy as the final goalpost of a relationship. It's created very skewed notions of romance and sexuality within the audience in relation to the games.

I got some gripes, though none about Josephine aside from her having the feminine version of my brother's name. Anyway, the demo. That dragon was a straight up MMO boss with its no moving, and phases, and I was a little confused when the tester mentioned using the newly amped Haste to keep it still when before hand it sat there like a moron throwing around fireballs and flapping its wings to knock people back. Capcom had more complex dragon fights on the PS2 and Bioware brings this to the table claiming "this is the next gen rpg."

Two points of it made me laugh, too. First was after the presenter had his spiel about deeper and better storytelling... he picks up a fetch quest for a lost ring. Then in a later combat section an enemy dies to magic, causing them to disintegrate into a skeleton and then they turned into a fully formed corpse.
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Lizbien Jul 9, 14
quote Xeros the Slayer
quote Lizbien
Xeros the Slayer Lol I love when people jump straight to complaining about romances as if their only perk is sex. Like character development and relationships means shit all so long as sex is there to "mess it all up". So silly~
Bioware games have very little casual sex outside of jokes and treat physical intimacy as the final goalpost of a relationship. It's created very skewed notions of romance and sexuality within the audience in relation to the games.
I haven't really found that myself, but everyone views it differently I suppose. I don't see why sex should or should not be included, and I personally don't really find that it detracts from the game itself. It's true that the situation is a bit dire to be worrying about your love life, but grown adults are gonna get it on if they want I suppose. The females being there only for sex is a fair stretch though, since the men are just as accessible so to speak.

Anyhoo, either way I see it I don't mind the inclusion, and I think she's a pretty cool looking character so far. Hopefully she'll help stem all the token female badassery from Sera and such.
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RabidChinaGirl Jul 9, 14
Xeros the Slayer Everyone in this game's got some pretty intense cheekbones going on.
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Xeros the Slayer Jul 9, 14
RabidChinaGirl Only really noticed that with Cassandra because of how angular and gaunt she was but now that you mention it, yeah. Most of them tend to have pretty crazy jawlines that are much more immediately noticeable.

quote Lizbien
I haven't really found that myself, but everyone views it differently I suppose. I don't see why sex should or should not be included, and I personally don't really find that it detracts from the game itself. It's true that the situation is a bit dire to be worrying about your love life, but grown adults are gonna get it on if they want I suppose. The females being there only for sex is a fair stretch though, since the men are just as accessible so to speak.
They have a really big problem with making sex the end point of their romances, which is why the two things have become synonymous in their games. Jack in ME2 was an especially big offender, to the point where she pretty much tells FemShep to go away because as a lady shep can't solve her traumas with dickings after her loyalty mission. And that becomes her only dialogue line from then on aside from flavor quotes about locations.

All meaningful character interactions in their games are done after sex in Bioware's romantic interest setup. It's more than a little creepy once you notice it.
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Lizbien Jul 9, 14
quote Xeros the Slayer
They have a really big problem with making sex the end point of their romances, which is why the two things have become synonymous in their games. Jack in ME2 was an especially big offender, to the point where she pretty much tells FemShep to go away because as a lady shep can't solve her traumas with dickings after her loyalty mission. And that becomes her only dialogue line from then on aside from flavor quotes about locations.

All meaningful character interactions in their games are done after sex in Bioware's romantic interest setup. It's more than a little creepy once you notice it.
Eh, I found the party banter to be an alright substitute, but perhaps that's simply because I'm a very casual romantic. That and I'd much rather just write up the romance in my head as I go along rather than have it written for me. You are right though, that the romance is shallow. I don't mind too much since, again, I rarely expect anything meaningful or life changing to come from any romance personally, and that definitely spills over into video game dating. I think more than anything I'll like options like Iron Bull, Zevran and Isabela. They at least fits the quick fck and go style.
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Solodolo Jul 9, 14
A rather nice lady...that my character is gonna bone
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Justplayingitcool Jul 10, 14
As I said in the other Josephine thread, I wonder if she has any ties with The Antivan Crows.
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Asyilem Jul 10, 14
She's the only new character I've taken a liking to. I've always known about Cullen and was excited to have him become even more involved in the series. I have to say I've always wanted to romance Cullen in the games. XD He just doesn't look the same anymore though.
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ANGRYWOLF Jul 10, 14
Sorry I found it first rabid.Didn't mean to get in your way.
I don't like the way she looks.The first pic was the first one I saw,as did other players from the Bioware website.
The second pic looks somewhat better., I think someone found it on twitter though I am not sure.

The social stance I believe Bioware is taking aka we're making the women look "realistic", realistic to us that is because otherwise we meaning Bioware would be objectifying women, so we're going to teach our players that.
Or something along those lines.Yes I believe that.I guess I was convinced of it by something another player said and by Gaider's tumblr.
Not going to rant about it any more.Smiles.Happy ? Rotfl.I guess it must get old seeing an old man rant.So if it bothered any one I apologize. I just get so mad, I'm Angrywolves/Angrywolf though so I have to keep up appearances.
I've calmed down now, enough to decide that if I get this game.No romances for me.None. Just play the game and try to get the 100% best ending, the bad guys all defeated, the veil tears sealed, al the companions and important figures in Thedas and Ferelden alive, a new Divine that the people believe in and Celene as Queen of Orlais' or The Masked Empire or whatever you want to call it.
That's it.smiles.
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