Neoseeker : News : The Elder Scrolls Online at home on PC, delays console release from June to late 2014
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Xperious May 8, 14
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Aurora May 8, 14
So many people are going to be pissed off by this. Has to be done, though, I suppose.
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Xperious May 8, 14
Yeah it might be for the better if there really is as many bugs and glitches people claim.
I haven't played the beta or the game on pc so I don't know how bad it really is, but 6 months?
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DedValve May 8, 14
So going f2p in 6 months then?
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Coi Cki May 8, 14
"Won't somebody think of the console gamers?"
Maybe that's exactly what they're doing? I wouldn't want a glitchy mess (exaggerating, maybe) on my PS4. Better to have the devs release a finished product than to pay to become a beta tester. Right?
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Crusad3r May 9, 14
ESO is a mess anyway. Quite suitable for the console scene as it is with its stupidly crappy and outdated graphics and horrible combat mechanics. I couldn't stand an hour in the thing.

The only thing worth play ESO for is its AvA, which is OK but not great. I'd say WoW's battlegrounds are better balanced than AvA and that's saying quite a lot considering the mess in WoW.
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Xperious May 11, 14
quote Crusad3r
ESO is a mess anyway. Quite suitable for the console scene as it is with its stupidly crappy and outdated graphics and horrible combat mechanics. I couldn't stand an hour in the thing.

The only thing worth play ESO for is its AvA, which is OK but not great. I'd say WoW's battlegrounds are better balanced than AvA and that's saying quite a lot considering the mess in WoW.
Why do you feel the need to bash consoles just to get your point across? It's "a mess" so it's suitable for consoles?
You are just one of those PC elitist that feels the need to bash consoles to make yourself feel bigger.

BTW, You lost all credibility when you said you didn't even play it for an hour.
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Aurora May 11, 14
That's the first complaint I've heard about TESO's graphics. As far as I can tell, TESO looks beautiful in comparison to other MMOs on the market.
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Crusad3r May 11, 14
quote Aurora
That's the first complaint I've heard about TESO's graphics. As far as I can tell, TESO looks beautiful in comparison to other MMOs on the market.
Skyrim's graphics are better than ESO's graphics purely from an art perspective. It might have more polygons or whatever, but it doesn't look good. Textures, when you zoom into them, are a horribly blurred mess. Even WoW does this better, and that game is ancient by gaming standards. The colour palate is basically 1 colour - brown. It's so devoid of any form of vibrancy that it's actually depressing to play.

quote Xperious
Why do you feel the need to bash consoles just to get your point across? It's "a mess" so it's suitable for consoles?
You are just one of those PC elitist that feels the need to bash consoles to make yourself feel bigger.

BTW, You lost all credibility when you said you didn't even play it for an hour.
Here was my experience with one of the beta weekends: Started a new character, got to the first mission, had to wait in line to complete one of the first quests. Saw that and stopped basically decided then and there that I wasn't going to buy the game. This is 2014, not 1998 - an MMO's PvE should be cooperative, not competitive

It had terrible gameplay mechanics and the combat was really clunky for an MMO, especially as the combat was lifted from the single player games. Single player combat does not translate well to MMOs. Stealth is overpowered as *bleep* but a little bit of latency lag saw you essentially get "stunlocked" with continuous knockbacks from enemy hits, until it lags so much that you just run around with the AI staring into thin air (another gripe I have - the AI is horrible, their aggro circle is way too small so a lot of the time involves you running up to them - how different from Skyrim, where a wolf would chase you cross country to try bite you to death). It's clear that this aggro circle is designed with console gamers in mind, as a control pad's responsiveness cannot beat a mouse and keyboard.

MMOs are the domain of the PC gaming world, so they must be criticised on PC gaming standard and if we do measure an MMO by that standard, then ESO is substandard. It's simple as that. It's not an objectively bad game. No, far from it. It has wonderful voice acting most of the time combined with some of the best music in any game I've ever heard, which really helps immersion, if we ignore enemy AI. The AvA is quite interesting (though quite unbalanced from what I've been shown, but the game's still new). It's just not a good game and that's my biggest disappointment with this title.
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Ascii May 11, 14
quote Crusad3r
Skyrim's graphics are better than ESO's graphics purely from an art perspective. It might have more polygons or whatever, but it doesn't look good. Textures, when you zoom into them, are a horribly blurred mess. Even WoW does this better, and that game is ancient by gaming standards. The colour palate is basically 1 colour - brown. It's so devoid of any form of vibrancy that it's actually depressing to play.
Of course Skyrim's graphics are better, it's not an MMO.

The graphics are still amazing or this game. There isn't another MMO that's even comparable at the moment.


Personally, I think the delay is a good idea. The game isn't glitched and bugged to hell or anything, but there is the occasional hole found. A few weeks ago some people found a way to abuse the guild banking system to duplicate items. That had a hit on the in-game economy. There has also been a bug since beta where horses can run forever, making stamina upgrades useless. The majority of the quest bugs that were causing everyone trouble in beta have been fixed though.
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Crusad3r May 12, 14
quote Ascii
Of course Skyrim's graphics are better, it's not an MMO.
Why is this a thing? Why can't an MMO's graphics be as good as any other new AAA title on the market? The machines used to play MMOs aren't different to those used to play The Witcher, just as an example. There's no excuse for allowing lesser graphics on newly released AAA title MMOs.

Purely from an art direction perspective, Guild Wars 2's graphics looks WAY better, especially with addons such as SweetFX.
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Ascii May 12, 14
quote Crusad3r
quote Ascii
Of course Skyrim's graphics are better, it's not an MMO.
Why is this a thing? Why can't an MMO's graphics be as good as any other new AAA title on the market? The machines used to play MMOs aren't different to those used to play The Witcher, just as an example. There's no excuse for allowing lesser graphics on newly released AAA title MMOs.
Because MMO's have to run at a level to fit dozens, if not hundreds, of players on a screen. Doing that with graphics like Skyrim just isn't possible for most machines. They have to make sure their game can be played by a large user base, and the average gamer isn't going to have a top-notch gaming rig.
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Dynamite May 12, 14
Of all the things to bash ESO about, and there are many, graphics would probably be near the bottom of the list for me. It's one of the best looking MMOs around, imo. I thought it was quite visually stunning. It's not at the level of Skyrim, but that's because it's a single player game as has been said above. When you create an MMO with the intention of having hundreds of characters on screen at any given time this does limit you a little.
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Xperious May 12, 14
So you played part of the beta, and decided it wasn't up to PC standards?
Sounds like a valid argument.

quote Crusad3r
Textures, when you zoom into them, are a horribly blurred mess.
Textures aren't meant for you to sit there looking at them through a microscope.
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