Neoseeker : News : Elder Scrolls Online beta NDA lifted, beta participants now able to share impressions
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Human_Tank10 Feb 18, 14
quote Avalith
quote Human_Tank10
Ignore the person that compared buying WoW and paying monthly to ESO. Its only 10 years old, its bound to be the same price it was the day it came out
No, let's not ignore it. You can get into a 10 year old MMO and be fully updated with the latest content for less than you can get into ESO. The monthly subscription is the same, but you're paying $10 for WoW and four expansions than you do for ESO's base.

quote Human_Tank10
lets take a look at new xbox one games and ps4 games too they are about £50 to buy, yet how many do you finish within a week and never play again? Ontop of nearly every mmo having or requiring some form of ~£10 a month payment
Final Fantasy XIV is only $30, has a cheaper subscription (if you're content with only one character... there's not really a need for alts other than extra bag space), and is a much better comparison to ESO than your typical $60 Call of Duty.

quote Human_Tank10
No doubt someone will throw in GW2 as a comparison at some point, GW2 doesnt have half the depth or difficulty of the ESO Beta alone.
GW2 was only mentioned because it's roughly the same price as ESO up front. The only reason people don't complain about GW2's price for being an MMO is that there's no monthly subscription fee. Combine the higher price tag with a subscription and you've got yourself a problem. Many ESO players at first will be WoW and FF14 players as well. They're not going to want to pay for two or three subscriptions if they're having to pay a regular retail price for that second or third MMO.

Don't get me wrong. I've played the ESO beta. I enjoyed it. I'm just not willing to pay for three MMO subscriptions and pay $60 for that third MMO.
1. My comment stated WoW wasnt 10$ on release.
2. All expansions of which on release cost money&retained a sub. So lets work out the release price of WoW and the release price of every expansion the day they came out, im sure it doesnt take a genius to work that its more than ESO.
3.Better comparison? The game wasnt being compared, the price was, so any game is a good comparison.

quote Wakaman
Your lack of knowledge of TES games is amusing. Who, and I am genuinely asking, in the hell expected The Elder Sims? Like really, who?

I don't see the reason for you to come in here all butthurt because people aren't on sucking Bethesda off. I myself have no problem with it(I've only really played one MMO before so the price doesnNt seem that big of a deal to me) but dismissing others as retarded for not liking the $60 up front plus the $15/month is just as retarded if not moreso.

That fanboy damage control isn't even necessary, jeez.
Im a fan boy for saying that wow wasn't 10$ on release? Makes sense.

Also I didnt call someone who disliked the price a retard, I said it was about saying WoW was 10$ at release, dont worry though, ill happily correct you.

Please, do point out where anywhere in my post has anything remotely to do with 'knowledge on any TES game'.


Also I wouldnt class myself as a bethesda fanboy, if any type of fanboy it would be the mmo genre more so than bethesda. I think the majority of things bethesda have done havent interested me, the only games I have largely enjoyed were oblivion and fallout 3. The third closest being dishonoured. All the other games havent interested me for longer than an hour and the only other game thats near the above is probably skyrim which for some reason I couldnt get into enough to spend prolonged periods on.
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Avalith Feb 18, 14
quote Human_Tank10
2. All expansions of which on release cost money&retained a sub. So lets work out the release price of WoW and the release price of every expansion the day they came out, im sure it doesnt take a genius to work that its more than ESO.
3.Better comparison? The game wasnt being compared, the price was, so any game is a good comparison.
I'm talking about the cost of getting into the game now, not when the expansions were released. It's cheaper now to get into the latest WoW expac than it will be to start in the base game of ESO.

As for the comparison, I was comparing prices of other MMOs on the market, not "any" game.
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Human_Tank10 Feb 18, 14
quote Avalith
quote Human_Tank10
2. All expansions of which on release cost money&retained a sub. So lets work out the release price of WoW and the release price of every expansion the day they came out, im sure it doesnt take a genius to work that its more than ESO.
3.Better comparison? The game wasnt being compared, the price was, so any game is a good comparison.
I'm talking about the cost of getting into the game now, not when the expansions were released. It's cheaper now to get into the latest WoW expac than it will be to start in the base game of ESO.

As for the comparison, I was comparing prices of other MMOs on the market, not "any" game.
You seem to be surprised that a 10 year old game is cheaper than a game coming out today? Obviously its cheaper now, just like every mmo before ESO. Most mmos reduce the price drastically after a year or two when people stop buying it.
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SkullFace Feb 20, 14
Personally If I owned a PC I'd have to have a serious think about buying ESO because all the other options there are. But for Console users, and now I use the XB1 as example, this is the ONLY MMO - so yeah I'm buying it and unfortunately regardless. But I still think that it's overpriced but that's because I'm being hit with 3 bills. PC Users (I was one once and played several MMO's) shouldn't complain of the price to much, It really isn't that expensive compared to WOW on release and several other MMOs. People compare GW2 now - but ESO will be so much more than GW series - have you seen the Raids Gameplay I posted? WOW or I should say ESO!

question. Is Internet Free in America? - That's a serious question! I've always wondered.
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unclebobert87 Feb 21, 14
If I was interested, I wouldn't complain really. I mean look at games like CoD and NFS, especially CoD for this example. CoD retails more than most games and to get the full experience over a year, you pretty much have to buy the season pass which costs the same as the game. Then next year, you do it all again.

ESO will keep most players playing for a few years which will eventually work out cheaper than CoD. Then there's all the other games. Most games will last you what, a week? If you played nothing else
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Xemas12 Feb 21, 14
quote unclebobert87
If I was interested, I wouldn't complain really. I mean look at games like CoD and NFS, especially CoD for this example. CoD retails more than most games and to get the full experience over a year, you pretty much have to buy the season pass which costs the same as the game. Then next year, you do it all again.

ESO will keep most players playing for a few years which will eventually work out cheaper than CoD. Then there's all the other games. Most games will last you what, a week? If you played nothing else
I don't know that you have to buy the season pass to get a years worth. In fact most of the people I know that play CoD never buy season passes. They still play MW3 and none have ever owned a season pass for the game.

What do you mean that most games would last a week if you played nothing else? Whenever I get a new game, unless I hate it, I play nothing less for more than a week at least. But maybe I'm just weird.
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resi _4_zombie Feb 21, 14
quote SkullFace
question. Is Internet Free in America? - That's a serious question! I've always wondered.
here in the UK, it depends on who your ISP is, and what package/deal you've signed too. With Virgin Media, I get Unlimited usage. but still have to pay about £30-£50 depending on the bill every quarter. That's about $50/3 months. But, I'd imagine it's cheaper for you guys acroos the pond because your economy is a hell of a lot better than ours.

the only way you can be sure is if you read the small print.
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unclebobert87 Feb 21, 14
Cod the season pass is one lump sum for the dlc maps and new guns etc

the most games bit, for me at least dpending on the game, I will have the story finished within a week if I played non stop unless its a sports type game or multiplayer game
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Abardomas Feb 21, 14
I really don't see why so many people are upset about the cost of Elder Scrolls Online. It's really not that expensive considering how great the game is going to be! Two of the most successful MMOs are subscription based, and for good reasons. I have a feeling that a lot of the people that are currently complaining will end up buy the game and paying the subscription fee...just sayin
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Xemas12 Feb 21, 14
quote unclebobert87
Cod the season pass is one lump sum for the dlc maps and new guns etc

the most games bit, for me at least dpending on the game, I will have the story finished within a week if I played non stop unless its a sports type game or multiplayer game
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by that line about CoD but as for other games yes story modes can be beaten in one week but many games have side quest that when added up are much more time consuming than the story.
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Verotten Feb 25, 14
Cool, no NDA. Got my beta key for this weekend, so I'm prepared to go screenshot mad.
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grzesiek_we Mar 4, 14
I heard about the game from a friend and I must say that it looks promising. Atmosphere of the game I really like. Admittedly, this is not LotF that the list of anticipated games prominently, it's for this too find a place. LotF necessarily, ESO still think.
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