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tekmosis Jan 28, 14
This is a shot of the B-R5RB battle

it's 3818x1034
http://i.imgur.com/D2552Aa.jpg

edit, actually here have an entire album of it;
http://imgur.com/a/GenEb

edit x2, and video!
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Rabla Jan 28, 14
I actually heard about this as it happened while I was on voice chat on Final Fantasy XIV, and we were following the progress as it went along.

Those guys are crazy man, I don't know how they do that.
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Lorx Jan 29, 14
I can't wait to see the final numbers for the battle. So far about $225,000 has been confirmed by CCP, they have noted the final "score" for how many Titan ships fell was 59-16 as an official count. Some of these ships were definitely worth more than others though, and there were hundreds of additional ships that were destroyed in the fray. The most expensive ship I've seen records for that was destroyed, was this 220bil+ ship, which trumps the average estimated cost of most ships of it's class. It's worth $6,700. Or about twice the rule of thumb.

In some amount of detail, what happened was pretty simple. The two major alliances, CFC and PL, had been building up armies for quite some time, readying for an engagement. While they certainly have had little fights, in a way it's been kind of a cold war as neither side has fought it out like this, they've been simply bulking up.

B-R5RB has been a bit of a staging area for PL, it is technically in the hands of a corporation (aka guild) named Nulli, and the rent payment didn't happen. So they lost control of the area accidentally. The specific guy who was in charge of the payment actually set up an AMA on reddit, stating;
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I have petitioned it but LOL petition. I had 4 bil isk in the corp wallet and all the necessary things ticked for automatic bill pay but sov still dropped v0v.
AMA link
Could be lying, could have just had an accident, may never know for sure. Either way, the area became neutral and a corporation known as RUS swept in and nabbed it. PL had stuff in the outpost, and it's a strategic point, so they brought in the big guns to scare off or fight off the opposition. RUS responded in kind with the help of CFC, and the battle kind of quickly escalated into a 18h+ battle that is to my knowledge the most expensive fight to ever happen in the game. The battle was huge, as tek's screenshots illustrate, and the current estimates I'm seeing from people researching it are placing the minimal damages at $300,000. A CCP rep on twitch noted they would have documentation up on Wednesday, I'm really curious to see what the direct costs are here.

And of course indirectly, EVE Online is special in that it has a completely player-run economy, so all of this fighting caused a lot of resource loss, prices in the market apparently soared up pretty high, so there's a bunch of indirect effects happening as well.

It's worth noting for those who don't know EVE's currency, few if any players actually paid money for what was lost, the numbers are really there to give scope. It's possible to buy a month subscription ($15) for in-game currency (it's an item, so people can put it on the market), which is used as a metric for currency worth, there's no "and we sold ingame items for cash money" like Diablo III attempted going on here. The ships lost can be worth over 200 months of sub time purely because of how long and how much resources it takes to build one. Building these Titans is generally a group effort by the large corporations, hence the expense. It is rare to see a single Titan die in this game (unless it's piloted by a specific famous player), so the fact that 75 died in a single day, in a single battle, is rather huge.
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ZombiiTech Jan 29, 14
Even though I'll tip my hat to Eve Online for being as successful and interesting as it is... there's a certain point in gaming where it screams "overboard". As intense as a game might be... wow, between "months of time PER ship to be built" and the massive amount of money each is worth and/or is invested... I mean come on, I'm a pretty hardcore gamer myself... but there's definitely been that bold "overboard" or "addiction" line drawn in the sand for years... and I'd say this specific incident jumps so far past that line, the line's not even a fading memory. *facepalm*
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S-I-E Jan 29, 14
the war to end all wars.

-armchair napoleon
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Rabla Jan 29, 14
quote S-I-E
the war to end all wars.
Only until the next one.
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S-I-E Jan 29, 14
quote Rabla
quote S-I-E
the war to end all wars.
Only until the next one.
that's a problem for another time
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Epoch Jan 29, 14
This game has always seemed so exciting. I should really pick it up sometime.
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BlackScythe Jan 29, 14
Sounds cool, but I tried to watch some videos of it and found it indecipherable. I honestly had no clue what was going on, I'm guessing it was because of lag.
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MilehighMario Jan 29, 14
Bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S
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SpartanNinja Jan 29, 14
I'm curious about if the two factions are still sniping at each other even now ir if they decided it wasn't worth it and had a ceasefire.

Regardless this is something that should go down in the history books. I also think its awesome that every one of those pictures is wallpaper worthy...
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Lorx Jan 29, 14
quote SpartanNinja
I'm curious about if the two factions are still sniping at each other even now ir if they decided it wasn't worth it and had a ceasefire.

Regardless this is something that should go down in the history books. I also think its awesome that every one of those pictures is wallpaper worthy...
I believe the fighting at BR has stopped, though all the notes from PL I've seen are about getting revenge, etc etc. So there's no ceasefire, but I doubt we'll see them slug it out like this again in the near future.
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SpartanNinja Jan 29, 14
quote Lorx
quote SpartanNinja
I'm curious about if the two factions are still sniping at each other even now ir if they decided it wasn't worth it and had a ceasefire.

Regardless this is something that should go down in the history books. I also think its awesome that every one of those pictures is wallpaper worthy...
I believe the fighting at BR has stopped, though all the notes from PL I've seen are about getting revenge, etc etc. So there's no ceasefire, but I doubt we'll see them slug it out like this again in the near future.
I definitely foresee a lot of raiding and 'terrorist' activity and the use or anonymous mercenaries as main players. If you destroy supply lines you just bleed them out after all.
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BlackScythe Jan 29, 14
quote SpartanNinja
quote Lorx
quote SpartanNinja
I'm curious about if the two factions are still sniping at each other even now ir if they decided it wasn't worth it and had a ceasefire.

Regardless this is something that should go down in the history books. I also think its awesome that every one of those pictures is wallpaper worthy...
I believe the fighting at BR has stopped, though all the notes from PL I've seen are about getting revenge, etc etc. So there's no ceasefire, but I doubt we'll see them slug it out like this again in the near future.
I definitely foresee a lot of raiding and 'terrorist' activity and the use or anonymous mercenaries as main players. If you destroy supply lines you just bleed them out after all.
This game has supply lines? I might have to take a look at it...
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