Neoseeker : News : YouTube defends new copyright scanning system, after upsetting gamers and publishers
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Aulis Vaara Dec 12, 13
Google are being dumbass assholes.

Small channels can't defend themselves against these, even if they aren't doing anything wrong legally. Either they don't have the time or the money to make this a legal issue, and thus have no choice but to shut down.

Even legitimate reviewers are getting copyright notices. Reviewers, who LEGALLY can use any footage they need to supplement their reviews, without approval from the company who made the game, to ensure that reviews can happen in a fair and unbiased manner.

So basically what google is doing, is an attack on free journalism. Good job, google, good *bleep*ing job.
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Lorx Dec 12, 13
Many companies seem to be fine with users getting back their content, I think Paradox actually had the best idea of the bunch. They put up a general-use letter for people to send to youtube if their channel got flagged due to a Paradox game. Completely solved issue once they ironed out the document to include audio claims. Other companies like Blizzard and Deep Silver have gone a little more hands-on and are also showing they want it solved. So hopefully not many users will actually lose claims, while Google tends to side with copyright owners moreso than not, if the owners also want that content on youtube, there's no conflict of interest between the two sides, user gets their claim approved.

There are sadly some companies that don't want their content up on youtube and monetized by others, I know Nintendo gets some flak for that one, and they'll be in a better spot to defend what they want I guess. For any other publisher that's sane enough to not try and stifle that market, I kind of expect this all to have blown over by the end of the month, with everything kind of returning to how it's always been. By then Google should have the system better tuned and the majority of users hopefully will have had their claims checked out.

Apparently this notice is not being sent out to youtubers under a network, so that's something at least.
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Wakaman Dec 12, 13
Man Angry Joe had a rant about getting a copywrite claim on an interview about Tombraider(in which he interviewed the people that were making/made the game) from a bogus company/entity. Was rather hilarious seeing him have a go at Youtube/Google.
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RabidChinaGirl Dec 12, 13
quote Wakaman
Man Angry Joe had a rant about getting a copywrite claim on an interview about Tombraider(in which he interviewed the people that were making/made the game) from a bogus company/entity. Was rather hilarious seeing him have a go at Youtube/Google
As the person who manages Neo's YouTube account, I can tell you that his rage is totally justified. I feel it on a regular basis. It's amazing how many bogus claims I dispute, and even more amazing how often YouTube sides with them.

Google's response angers me.
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tekmosis Dec 12, 13
What they said wasn't them defending the Content ID system, that's a bit sensationalized. They just confirmed the fact that the Content ID system has been enabled for MCN affiliates. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with their retarded system because unlike US laws / DMCA take down requests there is no repercussion to false claims on YT.

This video is pretty informative over the whole ordeal, it's definitely worth your time to watch if this whole thing affects / interests you

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HunterKiller666 Dec 12, 13
You know what's even more retarded? Soundtracks used as part of the game also get claimed by record companies. Games like GTA and various EA sports already paid royalty to those companies in order to play certain songs in the game, but if you upload gameplay videos that contain those songs your video can be up for claim. Talk about double dipping.
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Epoch Dec 12, 13
*The Man* has a many faces, and each one of them wants more of your money.
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tekmosis Dec 12, 13
If it's a DMCA take down request then yea I agree. The Content ID system is just a robot, all systematically done. Record companies upload songs, YT's algorithm matches against videos audio and performs X action depending on what the record companies set. It has no way to tell if it's a video game LP / trailer / review etc. It's a very inefficient system, the whole "you're guilty until you prove otherwise" is just really bad for gamers but it's probably effective for people who upload full songs, or movies.
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Huntereb Dec 12, 13
Man, YouTube has become so bad over the years.

Remember when YouTube was just about Videos, comments, and a rating system? When we didn't have to worry about bullshit policies like this?
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Wakaman Dec 12, 13
quote RabidChinaGirl
quote Wakaman
Man Angry Joe had a rant about getting a copywrite claim on an interview about Tombraider(in which he interviewed the people that were making/made the game) from a bogus company/entity. Was rather hilarious seeing him have a go at Youtube/Google
As the person who manages Neo's YouTube account, I can tell you that his rage is totally justified. I feel it on a regular basis. It's amazing how many bogus claims I dispute, and even more amazing how often YouTube sides with them.


Google's response angers me.
I imagine it's even more frustrating for channels not in networks, there's almost no chance if any at all for them to dispute the bullshit claims.
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Lorx Dec 12, 13
quote Huntereb
Man, YouTube has become so bad over the years.

Remember when YouTube was just about Videos, comments, and a rating system? When we didn't have to worry about bullshit policies like this?
This shift wasn't Youtube's fault anyway. They were under constant fire from lawsuits for how many months/years before they tightened their grip on this stuff enough where people no longer could even attempt a lawsuit? If you want to pin blame on the crackdown, blame the companies that tried to nuke youtube/google with lawsuits.

Very good video tekmosis, Sessler is always a really interesting guy to listen to about this kind of stuff.
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annihilate Dec 12, 13
STAFF

Titanfall is NOT EA property.


Record 1 out of 1
Word Mark: TITANFALL
Goods and Services: IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Video and computer game programs; video game discs; video game software
Standard Characters: Claimed
Mark Drawing Code: (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number: 85905432
Filing Date: April 16, 2013
Current Basis: 1B
Original Filing Basis: 1B
Published for Opposition: December 10, 2013
Owner: (APPLICANT) Respawn Entertainment, LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY CALIFORNIA 5990 Sepulveda Blvd., Suite 400 Van Nuys CALIFORNIA 91411
Attorney of Record: Joan Kupersmith Larkin
Type of Mark: TRADEMARK
Register: PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator: LIVE
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Lorx Dec 12, 13
annihilate EA's the publisher. Respawn owns the IP, but EA would be the ones marketing it and handling release information and media. Both companies may have sway over being able to knock stuff off youtube, depending on how the rights are managed for the footage itself.
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RabidChinaGirl Dec 12, 13
annihilate Titanfall videos on YouTube are under EA. Also, what Lorx said.
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