Neoseeker : News : Ubisoft fires Assassin's Creed game designer and creator Patrice Desilets, making this the second time
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Storm May 7, 13
tekmosis If that's the case, then he's playing innocent quite well. Now this situation has blown up due to both his and Ubisoft's actions. I still think it's bad blood, though. I mean if he did something wrong two years ago I'd understand. It's quite unfortunate for THQ to go, and coincidentally the studio he moved to was picked up by Ubisoft. He had to know he was vulnerable given the circumstances, I don't see why anyone would try anything in his shoes, but eh, maybe he is a hothead. All in all, though, I agree with Exevier, Ubisoft could have handled it better.

I've been in office jobs where people are let go and escorted, and it's never taken to the extreme where they aren't at least given time to pack up and say goodbye. I wonder just how intense things got.
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tekmosis May 7, 13
It's hard to comment without knowing all the facts. I think it's easy to take this guys side because Ubisoft is a large company and they've done things that people don't agree with (eg: Wii U Rayman). I don't know why you think Ubisoft handled this poorly, seems pretty standard to me. It doesn't matter if you work for EA, Ubi, Google, Apple. If you get a pink slip you'll be escorted off the premises by security.
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Boo May 7, 13
I was just about to say something along those lines, tekmosis. There are rules and rights about being made redundant/being fired but there are also rules to protect the company. He's obviously hiding something because they wouldn't fire him for nothing if he's such a genius creator.

To me he's coming off a total diva and played the "I made Assassin's Creed" card for all it's worth. This does not make you immune to being sacked.

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I intend to fight Ubisoft vigorously for my rights, for my team and for my game.
I rest my case.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't the sole creator of these games. A builder builds a house with his team of builders but it doesn't make the house his.
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Storm May 7, 13
This was a bit different than the standard way of doing things. This isn't standard for a normal process of firing (seen a good few for myself to know). This seems more along the lines of what you do to a hostile. If he was being hostile then he sure did get his composure back quickly for this statement. And also, if he was being -that- difficult, then his claims wouldn't go far at all, since there are witnesses that can testify towards what happened. Being escorted, that's the norm in a lot of workplaces. But the rush to get him out? That's the bothersome part.

"At the time of Desilets' return, an Ubisoft spokesperson said the company was "very pleased to welcome Patrice to Ubisoft again," and that the partnerships would "produce new ideas and high-quality titles for Ubisoft's customers." Well...that fell through!

I have no hatred for the company. I like their games, and am highly anticipating Watch Dogs. I've no idea what the deal with Wii U Rayman is about, will never own the console so don't care for it. This all just seems...sketchy. There's no goodwill here. Even in the official statement they could have said he's been let go and we wish him well on future endeavors. Instead, they boast their current team and ensure their success lies with them.

I'm no longer ruling him out, I've said his actions caused this matter to blow up, but it takes two to tango, and I'm not exactly fond of their statement.

Also, I'm unsure if he is referring to AC at all in his statement. It may just be the project he was working on pre-THQ's fall, 1666. This kind of reminds me of what happened to Itagaki in Tecmo or the co-creators behind Infinity Ward. Although, that was mostly about money. xD
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Solid-Snack May 7, 13
its no wonder that the gaming industry is not pumping out great games like it used to...all of this crap is going on...its all about that money.
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DedValve May 7, 13
quote Boo
I was just about to say something along those lines, tekmosis. There are rules and rights about being made redundant/being fired but there are also rules to protect the company. He's obviously hiding something because they wouldn't fire him for nothing if he's such a genius creator.

To me he's coming off a total diva and played the "I made Assassin's Creed" card for all it's worth. This does not make you immune to being sacked.

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I intend to fight Ubisoft vigorously for my rights, for my team and for my game.
I rest my case.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't the sole creator of these games. A builder builds a house with his team of builders but it doesn't make the house his.
But what if he was the one that snowballed the project, the one that created the character and basic plot, the one that had the idea on how the game was like, wouldn't that essentially (not legally) make it his? The final product belongs to Ubisoft as a whole but wouldn't by heart the series still be "his" in a sense, sort of like how Devil May Cry series (at least the first one anyways) "belongs" to Hideki Kamiya?

He's most likely speaking emotionally given the rest of his statement so in a sense the first game does belong to him.
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Boo May 7, 13
quote DedValve
But what if he was the one that snowballed the project, the one that created the character and basic plot, the one that had the idea on how the game was like, wouldn't that essentially (not legally) make it his? The final product belongs to Ubisoft as a whole but wouldn't by heart the series still be "his" in a sense, sort of like how Devil May Cry series (at least the first one anyways) "belongs" to Hideki Kamiya?

He's most likely speaking emotionally given the rest of his statement so in a sense the first game does belong to him.

Rolling with my previous metaphor, an architect does not necessarily own the building he designs.
Though I appreciate the emotional attachment to an idea that has turned out so successfully, it doesn't grant him immunity to being fired.
He's got to have been fired for a reason. They wouldn't do so just out of spite, especially not when he was creator of such a successful series.
If they have, then I shall eat my words, but I highly doubt it.
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DedValve May 7, 13
quote Boo
quote DedValve
But what if he was the one that snowballed the project, the one that created the character and basic plot, the one that had the idea on how the game was like, wouldn't that essentially (not legally) make it his? The final product belongs to Ubisoft as a whole but wouldn't by heart the series still be "his" in a sense, sort of like how Devil May Cry series (at least the first one anyways) "belongs" to Hideki Kamiya?

He's most likely speaking emotionally given the rest of his statement so in a sense the first game does belong to him.

Rolling with my previous metaphor, an architect does not necessarily own the building he designs.
Though I appreciate the emotional attachment to an idea that has turned out so successfully, it doesn't grant him immunity to being fired.
He's got to have been fired for a reason. They wouldn't do so just out of spite, especially not when he was creator of such a successful series.
If they have, then I shall eat my words, but I highly doubt it.
He obviously knows that Assassins Creed is property of no human but a corporation, Ubisoft. He just (rightfully imo) claims that (the first game anyways) is his in a sense that without him there would be no Assassins Creed.

We don't have enough info on any of this to be sure. All we know is that he left Ubisoft because he didn't like where the company was headed and then this time he got fired which sounds awfully fishy given his known stance against Ubisoft in the first place. Dude has a grudge but what for we don't know.
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DarkBlade725 May 7, 13
Wow, just wow no right to even say goodbye thats just like not being able to say goodbye to a close person to your heart when the person died
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Fragment of Chaos May 7, 13
I've seen companies getting sued for a LOT less. I'm sure he'll walk away with a lot of money. I honestly don't have an opinion though. Ubisoft is practically right next to EA-reputation in my eyes.
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Dantess26 May 8, 13
Well the series has been one rehash after another since the games that were released under his design... Not that Brotherhood was a bad rehash. Still, Ubisoft reveal more of their 'corporate' side as time goes by. The guy seems genuinely passionate about his work and his team, more props to him!
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Oglop May 8, 13
I probably just missed something in the article, but when did he says Assassin's Creed was his game? When he said my game, he could've meant whatever he had been working on at THQ. I mean, we all jump to AC when we think Ubisoft, but unless I'm missing something (which I likely am) AC wasn't specifically mentioned.

Cue someone quoting the article and verifying I'm a dumbass.
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Storm May 8, 13
Yeah, I thought the same thing, Oglop. The project was known as 1666. And supposedly, it was canned following the buyout.
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Fortitudo May 8, 13
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It's like Firing Hideo Kojima from Konami.
Am i missing something or have you made a mistake?

EDIT: Nevermind. I thought Kojima Productions was a different company altogether and not owned by Konami.
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Fairy Girl May 8, 13
Disrespectful in so many ways. Ubisoft has truly sunk to a new low.
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