Neoseeker : News : Rumor: Next Xbox reveal set for May 21, launch in early November for $500
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Huntereb Apr 9, 13
quote Phil Anselmo
That picture looks outdated.
Just took this picture from my own XBox (It's blank because my Dad didn't pay the bill in time so the internet isn't downloading the image).

quote Phil Anselmo
But you guys act like its full of toothpaste and soda commercials. They're just spotlights for games & content that you might be interested in. Whether or not you pay is irrelevent as it promotes content and not random *bleep*ing products.
How does Windows Phone relate to XBox games and content (bottom right corner)?

quote TommyVercetti101
One tile for a Windows phone. OMG I'm going to stop paying for XBL because I can't see the gameplay anymore!
No one said that, that's just rediculous.

quote Slash
That interferes with your gaming, some gaming ads on a dashboard doesn't.
He was just making an example stating that if we continue to disregard how they market their products they would start including something similar to this. That's probably never going to happen though. If you ever played Team Fortress 2 in the past year, game server owners started using a modification that forces players to watch an un-skipable ad before playing, and in-between rounds. People complained and Valve put a stop to it, Microsoft would do the same.
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Shinobi_razor Apr 9, 13
if MS did go that far to where its annoying, people would in fact complain. no need to complain if its not an issue.
quote Huntereb
quote Phil Anselmo
That picture looks outdated.
Just took this picture from my own XBox (It's blank because my Dad didn't pay the bill in time so the internet isn't downloading the image).
ads for Halo, Gears, and baseball. wow, thats just super irritating!
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Zombie_Barioth Apr 9, 13
It not about the ads being intrusive, but being completely ass backwards. Normally its only free programs that come with annoying ads and anything payed for is ad-free, but in this case its not. Xbox360 is also currently the only console that has this.

But anyway, I think $500 is rather steep for a console especially with the economy the way it is and so many other alternatives. Each one is supposed to be packaged with Kinect though so that probably drives the price up a bit. None of the console have really grabbed my attention yet and I'm perfectly content sticking with handhelds and PC for the time being.
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Phil Anselmo Apr 9, 13
quote Zombie_Barioth
It not about the ads being intrusive, but being completely ass backwards. Normally its only free programs that come with annoying ads and anything payed for is ad-free, but in this case its not. Xbox360 is also currently the only console that has this.

They have nothing to do with whether or not its a subscription based service. They showcase content available on the marketplace or related products. They're not your standard advertisements aka spaces sold to third parties to bring in revenue.

Is it really that hard for people to understand?
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Huntereb Apr 9, 13
quote Shinobi_razor
ads for Halo, Gears, and baseball. wow, thats just super irritating!
I was trying to direct you to the space at the bottom labeled "Advertisement". You're just butthurt.

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Huntereb Apr 9, 13
quote Phil Anselmo
They're not your standard advertisements aka spaces sold to third parties to bring in revenue.
This isn't a third party space? Their website even says "AN AMAZON COMPANY" right under their logo.

quote Phil Anselmo
Is it really that hard for people to understand?
No it isn't, so why aren't you?
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Animatrix Apr 9, 13
I love Xbox to death. But if the online isn't free like PS4, then Xbox might as well give up. PlayStationNetwork is almost tripling Xbox's LIVE atm, and PS3's only real hype was the free-online, so if Xbox got with the program they'd be back on par with PSN..

Shit, I'm not even gonna be buying a new console for awhile after they release anyways.
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Phil Anselmo Apr 9, 13
quote Huntereb
quote Phil Anselmo
They're not your standard advertisements aka spaces sold to third parties to bring in revenue.
This isn't a third party space? Their website even says "AN AMAZON COMPANY" right under their logo.

quote Phil Anselmo
Is it really that hard for people to understand?
No it isn't, so why aren't you?
Lovefilm is a UK streaming service right? Theres an app on the marketplace. What's your point again exactly?

Grasping at straws dude.
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Zombie_Barioth Apr 9, 13
quote Phil Anselmo
quote Zombie_Barioth
It not about the ads being intrusive, but being completely ass backwards. Normally its only free programs that come with annoying ads and anything payed for is ad-free, but in this case its not. Xbox360 is also currently the only console that has this.

They have nothing to do with whether or not its a subscription based service. They showcase content available on the marketplace or related products. They're not your standard advertisements aka spaces sold to third parties to bring in revenue.

Is it really that hard for people to understand?
Is it really that hard to understand why someone might not like it?

They're still advertisements, plain and simple. Something like a sale on their storefront you might not know about otherwise would be fine and possibly helpful, but another first party device like a phone or random software simply shouldn't be there and just clutters an otherwise clean looking menu.
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Phil Anselmo Apr 9, 13
quote Zombie_Barioth
quote Phil Anselmo
quote Zombie_Barioth
It not about the ads being intrusive, but being completely ass backwards. Normally its only free programs that come with annoying ads and anything payed for is ad-free, but in this case its not. Xbox360 is also currently the only console that has this.

They have nothing to do with whether or not its a subscription based service. They showcase content available on the marketplace or related products. They're not your standard advertisements aka spaces sold to third parties to bring in revenue.

Is it really that hard for people to understand?
Is it really that hard to understand why someone might not like it?

They're still advertisements, plain and simple. Something like a sale on their storefront you might not know about otherwise would be fine and possibly helpful, but another first party device like a phone or random software simply shouldn't be there and just clutters an otherwise clean looking menu.

I can't understand why you would make such a huge deal out of nothing. First the ads are compared to random popups you might encounter while browsing the web, and that's false, next four little squares on one screen are suddenly too repulsive to look at?

Haha its just ridiculous.
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Floral Fallal Apr 9, 13
That is an absolutely absurd price, if this is true.
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Shinobi_razor Apr 9, 13
quote Huntereb
quote Shinobi_razor
ads for Halo, Gears, and baseball. wow, thats just super irritating!
I was trying to direct you to the space at the bottom labeled "Advertisement". You're just butthurt.


Now that's what you can ironic. A whiny kid getting butthurt over ads and then calling someone else butthurt because they don't share the same butthurt-edness. Lol

#fullretard
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Epoch Apr 9, 13
Fact, if you use internet media, you will be subjected to adds.

Fact, if you use the internet, you will encounter trolls.

Fact, the internet has an abundance of two things, adds and "adult" media.

Moving on.

-edit, also, guys you realize your posts are being put on links right on the main page of neo, for all to see, can we class things up around here or what?
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Zombie_Barioth Apr 9, 13
quote Phil Anselmo
quote Zombie_Barioth
quote Phil Anselmo
quote Zombie_Barioth
It not about the ads being intrusive, but being completely ass backwards. Normally its only free programs that come with annoying ads and anything payed for is ad-free, but in this case its not. Xbox360 is also currently the only console that has this.

They have nothing to do with whether or not its a subscription based service. They showcase content available on the marketplace or related products. They're not your standard advertisements aka spaces sold to third parties to bring in revenue.

Is it really that hard for people to understand?
Is it really that hard to understand why someone might not like it?

They're still advertisements, plain and simple. Something like a sale on their storefront you might not know about otherwise would be fine and possibly helpful, but another first party device like a phone or random software simply shouldn't be there and just clutters an otherwise clean looking menu.

I can't understand why you would make such a huge deal out of nothing. First the ads are compared to random popups you might encounter while browsing the web, and that's false, next four little squares on one screen are suddenly too repulsive to look at?

Haha its just ridiculous.
Nobody said they're "too repulsive" to look at, or anything of the sort. They just don't have any business being there in the first place. Ads are usually intended to help fund or pay for something your not directly paying for, yet Xbox live is a payed service and the membership fee is supposed to be there to cover costs. So then why exactly are the ads there in the first place? Why is the Xbox the only console that currently feature ads while also being the only one requiring a fee to use most of its features?

Its very simple, Microsoft can so Microsoft does.

At the end of the day its not about whos right after all its just an opinion, my point isn't that its a big deal. My point is that while it might not be a big deal to some and not worth mentioning, others simply don't like it and shouldn't be told to quite whining about it simply because its "no big deal" to you.
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Phil Anselmo Apr 9, 13
quote Zombie_Barioth
Ads are usually intended to help fund or pay for something your not directly paying for, yet Xbox live is a payed service and the membership fee is supposed to be there to cover costs. So then why exactly are the ads there in the first place? Why is the Xbox the only console that currently feature ads while also being the only one requiring a fee to use most of its features?
Usually, yes. In this case? No. The ads on the dashboard promote games or marketplace content, sales, new products, etc.. they're actually pretty damn useful.


I pay for cable, guess I shouldn't have to watch commercials. /logic
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