Neoseeker : News : Adam Orth, Creative Director at Microsoft Studios, defends always online connections via Twitter
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EvilTediz597 Apr 10, 13
If you want to live in today's society, you need to be "Always Employed."

Get with the times.
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BlackScythe Apr 10, 13
You know normally one should feel bad when people loose a job, but I can't feel sympathy. He was a total ass and even if he didn't have a "high" position in the company it had an important sounding title.

Hopefully he has learned to thinking before typing.
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Crusad3r Apr 10, 13
quote RC Cola King
I can see where you are coming from, and you may be right about always online being thing in a few years, but right now, not everyone can afford a steady internet connection or even any internet at all. I know plenty of people out in the country who don't have internet who play on a 360. Those are the kind of customers Microsoft would be losing if they were to change to always online. It's not that we don't want to change, it's just that some people simply can't.
Can't? or won't? There are so many different ways to access the internet extremely cheaply now (satellite, 3g, 4g, cable, fibre optics, dsl), so if you can afford to buy an xbox and purchase games for it, you can afford to get internet in some form or other. Not an excuse.

quote BlackScythe
quote Crusad3r
Having been an avid player of MMORPGs for more than a decade now, I really don't see the issue behind "always online".

Really, everything WILL be online in a few years. Complaining about it won't change progress.
As a person who owns a wide variety of single player OFFLINE games, my purchases will never become worthless or be taken away from me just because the company goes out of buisness or decides to stop running servers for a specific game. Nor will those games block me out of playing for a holiday weekend because no one feels like coming in to fix a server issue. Or a wide variety of other reasons because Ubisoft sucks and has completely burned me on any sort of major online DRM.
Except you know that servers generally don't go down for more than 6 hours at a time for maintenance, usually during hours where least people are online... right? I own a lot of offline games too, as well as online games. If one server goes down, there's always others to play.

Pity this guy had to leave Microsoft just for speaking his mind about something unpopular within the console gaming community.
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Yay4sean Apr 10, 13
Crusad3r
Well, there's a reason why it's unpopular. And it's not because everyone pirates their console games, either. The guy had no PR skills at all. While I think speaking your mind is great, I also think that making jokes about something a large amount of people disagree with is foolish. That's like hitting a bee hive and expecting not to get stung.

I honestly wouldn't want this guy in my company if he's going to make stupid (and poorly done) jokes on social media.
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bbb7002004 Apr 10, 13
The problem is there is no benefit to a console being requiring an online connection to work, aside from good old DRM punishing paying customers and making them jump through hoops for buying their games legally. These arguments of "Well, such and such already does this!" and "everyone has internet anyway!" are just strawmen covering up this fact, because there is no consumer gain at all.

That's the funny thing about freedom of speech though. You have the right to say whatever you want, but you still have to deal with the consequences of your words. Frankly, if your dumb enough to draw that kind of negative attention to a soon to be announced console just to troll people on Twitter, then your probably too dumb to work at a billion-dollar company.
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tekmosis Apr 10, 13
Harsh, and now the entire gaming community knows, and is talking about how he no longer works for Microsoft as a direct result of what he said. I wonder how tough it'll be for him to find another such position in the industry. I wonder how he's.....dealing with it.
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Crusad3r Apr 10, 13
quote bbb7002004
The problem is there is no benefit to a console being requiring an online connection to work, aside from good old DRM punishing paying customers and making them jump through hoops for buying their games legally. These arguments of "Well, such and such already does this!" and "everyone has internet anyway!" are just strawmen covering up this fact, because there is no consumer gain at all.
Except most of the time, the main reason isn't DRM, but encouraging the multiplayer side of the game. You have to keep in mind, PC gaming has had this thing for many many MANY years already. Guess what? It works. It's worked well enough for game devs to consider moving it to consoles, despite the fact that traditionally, consoles are designed for single player gaming (or people within the same room).

quote bbb7002004
That's the funny thing about freedom of speech though. You have the right to say whatever you want, but you still have to deal with the consequences of your words. Frankly, if your dumb enough to draw that kind of negative attention to a soon to be announced console just to troll people on Twitter, then your probably too dumb to work at a billion-dollar company.
I wonder about that. He was probably a bit stupid to say it on such an open platform, but I think what he said needed to be said.
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Slash Apr 10, 13
Well I think with him leaving and Microsoft apologizing, this implies the nextbox won't be Online only. o:
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BlackScythe Apr 10, 13
quote tekmosis
Harsh, and now the entire gaming community knows, and is talking about how he no longer works for Microsoft as a direct result of what he said. I wonder how tough it'll be for him to find another such position in the industry. I wonder how he's.....dealing with it.
Those were my thoughts exactly. This was pretty public, any job hunt he goes on in the future is going to have dozens of pages pop up with a single google search of his name.

How many companies will be willing to hire a guy who so foolishly smeared his company in such a public way? I really do feel bad for him in a certian kind of way. Though I have a hard time being overly sympathetic for such an overwhelming display of stupidity.



quote Slash
Well I think with him leaving and Microsoft apologizing, this implies the nextbox won't be Online only. o:
Or they just wanted to try announcing it more delicately.
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Slash Apr 10, 13
quote BlackScythe
quote Slash
Well I think with him leaving and Microsoft apologizing, this implies the nextbox won't be Online only. o:
Or they just wanted to try announcing it more delicately.
Well if they still make online only then Microsoft is pretty damn stupid.
Everyone would switch over from Microsoft to Sony.


Isn't Adam Orth the person who also said that Halo is the worst FPS franchise or something like that. lol
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bbb7002004 Apr 10, 13
Last time I checked I can still use my PC offline. Some games requiring internet isn't a problem. Certain games and features obviously need a constant connection, such as mulitplayer ones, but the device requiring online serves no purpose other than DRM.
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THM Apr 10, 13
Always online connection = Suicide of the new Xbox console itself!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOD-squa Apr 10, 13
Slash - I believe he did say that he hated Halo a few years ago. GG to him.
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rpg Apr 10, 13
hmm, sad he lost his job regardless. I'm sure he's going to try applying for a new job eventually, shame that he won't be able to apply online since his internet will probably be cut for not being able to pay his ISP..... *coughs*
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