Neoseeker : News : Miyamoto unconcerned by Wii U sales, says Nintendo didn't focus on online for sake of mass appeal
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THM Mar 12, 13
There are always some 'bad apples' in a corporation whether it's gaming or other businesses.

I don't hate CEOs, not all CEOs are bad, some are good and hard-working, but the Wall St, protesters defined the term called 'greedy', or 'greedy CEOs' during and after the GFC. People invented it for guys like Howard Stringer.
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Relmutsie AN Mar 12, 13
quote THM
There are always some 'bad apples' in a corporation whether it's gaming or other businesses.

I don't hate CEOs, not all CEOs are bad, some are good and hard-working, but the Wall St, protesters defined the term called 'greedy', or 'greedy CEOs' during and after the GFC. People invented it for guys like Howard Stringer.
You probably should've stopped a few posts ago.
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Socialist Gamer Mar 12, 13
quote THM

There are always some 'bad apples' in a corporation whether it's gaming or other businesses.

I don't hate CEOs, not all CEOs are bad, some are good and hard-working, but the Wall St, protesters defined the term called 'greedy', or 'greedy CEOs' during and after the GFC. People invented it for guys like Howard Stringer.
You probably should've stopped a few posts ago.

Relmutsie AN, There is no stopping for THM.

Plus, guys like Donald Trump, should be on the greedy list.
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lKasHl Mar 12, 13
quote XXIV
That's a lot of money being thrown around, and it's interesting to note that the salaries seem to have no correlation with the performance of their respective companies. Iwata and Miyamoto are earning chump change compared to their equivalents at other publishers, and yet Nintendo is eating everybody else's lunch.
I think it might be more of a cultural thing in Japan where people place a higher priority on benefiting the nation and honouring family/company names rather than the more typical egocentric capitalist way of operation. Nintendo if I recall correctly, has a majority shareholding with more traditional and conservative japenese men so its not surprising that the upper echelons are more frugal in their salary allocation than we're accustomed to.

THM I think its inappropriate judging CEO's as greedy corporate flyers until you know exactly what they're doing with the money. I mean on the surface of it Bill Gates was getting an abundance from Microsoft but the majority of that money was directed to charitable causes.
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THM Mar 12, 13
quote Relmutsie AN
quote THM
There are always some 'bad apples' in a corporation whether it's gaming or other businesses.

I don't hate CEOs, not all CEOs are bad, some are good and hard-working, but the Wall St, protesters defined the term called 'greedy', or 'greedy CEOs' during and after the GFC. People invented it for guys like Howard Stringer.
You probably should've stopped a few posts ago.
I don't think you understand what I mean!!!
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THM Mar 12, 13
quote lKasHl
quote XXIV
That's a lot of money being thrown around, and it's interesting to note that the salaries seem to have no correlation with the performance of their respective companies. Iwata and Miyamoto are earning chump change compared to their equivalents at other publishers, and yet Nintendo is eating everybody else's lunch.
I think it might be more of a cultural thing in Japan where people place a higher priority on benefiting the nation and honouring family/company names rather than the more typical egocentric capitalist way of operation. Nintendo if I recall correctly, has a majority shareholding with more traditional and conservative japenese men so its not surprising that the upper echelons are more frugal in their salary allocation than we're accustomed to.

THM I think its inappropriate judging CEO's as greedy corporate flyers until you know exactly what they're doing with the money. I mean on the surface of it Bill Gates was getting an abundance from Microsoft but the majority of that money was directed to charitable causes.
Well, I just watch CNN and BBC news, both of which describe about 'greed' of CEOs, we're living in a democratic society, FREE to say or judge, comments are just comments.Of course, 'Communists' only define as "inappropriate" or say 'stop' in relation to the subject of CEO.
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MasterChief Mar 12, 13
quote Relmutsie AN


quote THM

There are always some 'bad apples' in a corporation whether it's gaming or other businesses.

I don't hate CEOs, not all CEOs are bad, some are good and hard-working, but the Wall St, protesters defined the term called 'greedy', or 'greedy CEOs' during and after the GFC. People invented it for guys like Howard Stringer.

You probably should've stopped a few posts ago.
I don't think you understand what I mean!!!

The guy called THM seems to be popular and right, Thanks Neoseeker for posting some great news and facilitating great discussions.Long live the democractic discussions
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Teh Prick Mar 12, 13
What? The only time Miyamoto is not smiling is when Nintendo dies? I highly doubt. The only time is he is not smiling is when he's asleep.
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lKasHl Mar 12, 13
quote THM
Well, I just watch CNN and BBC news, both of which describe about 'greed' of CEOs, we're living in a democratic society, FREE to say or judge, comments are just comments.Of course, 'Communists' only define as "inappropriate" or say 'stop' in relation to the subject of CEO.
I'm not sure how you've construed what I said as being supportive of communism or diminishing to democratic rights, all I'm saying is that rather than commenting from a position of ignorance based on what the media, who profit on sensationalising stories, you might want to get further insight into the topic.

Unless of course you'd simply prefer to assume the corporations who own the media are completely objective and full of integrity and stick to an opinion of ignorance (which democratically you are definitely entitled to). Its just disappointing to see how people don't appreciate that democracy also endorses the right to express actual insight and wisdom. Frankly I'm pretty disappointed in you raising such a weak and sensationalist argument THM, I thought alot of your posts I've previously read showed alot of insight.
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THM Mar 13, 13
quote lKasHl
quote THM
Well, I just watch CNN and BBC news, both of which describe about 'greed' of CEOs, we're living in a democratic society, FREE to say or judge, comments are just comments.Of course, 'Communists' only define as "inappropriate" or say 'stop' in relation to the subject of CEO.
I'm not sure how you've construed what I said as being supportive of communism or diminishing to democratic rights, all I'm saying is that rather than commenting from a position of ignorance based on what the media, who profit on sensationalising stories, you might want to get further insight into the topic.

Unless of course you'd simply prefer to assume the corporations who own the media are completely objective and full of integrity and stick to an opinion of ignorance (which democratically you are definitely entitled to). Its just disappointing to see how people don't appreciate that democracy also endorses the right to express actual insight and wisdom. Frankly I'm pretty disappointed in you raising such a weak and sensationalist argument THM, I thought alot of your posts I've previously read showed alot of insight.
Now we're talking.

P.S. Yes, I see the good points you made. Bill Gates is good, right!! I agreed, but we always need to look what truly lies behind the curtain of capitalism. We know what power lies behind them! People power or 'money power' or both??

Most importantly, How the world will go on in the next fifty or a thousand years and so on with or without CEOs like Bill Gate or Donald Trump. For me, politics is always about understanding 'truth'.
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Zombie_Barioth Mar 13, 13
quote Teh Prick
The only time is he is not smiling is when he's asleep.
I sure hope so, otherwise that'd be pretty creepy.

I've gotta say, Miyamoto has a good point. Things like Facebook and Twitter weren't as big a deal as they are now.While Sony and MS were busy working the kinks out Nintendo was able to watch and take notes on what did or didn't work, while slowly working on their own ideas.

Although there is something to be said about being an early adopter of new technology or services and pushing them into becoming mainstream.
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The Blade Slade Mar 13, 13
I feel Nintendo just keeps making bad excuses for doing what they're doing.

I tried with the Wii in 06 when it first came out and was terribly disappointed other than a few good games.

I'm really hoping the Wii U will get back in the game but with it's inferior tech, I fear that won't be happening and it'll end up getting crushed by Sony and MS again. :\

Why nintendo..?
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ashantiqua Mar 13, 13
the wii u just needs awesome first party games to sell the hardware (rehashes/reboots are ok, but dont exactly get the blood flowing), nintendo can then set up some second party deals, and if those are fairly successful, nintendo can then work with 3rd party devs to make exclusives. thats the only way i can see the wii u really thriving: great exclusives.

because next-gen ports to the wii u likely just wont happen: ps4 and xbox 720 tech will likely be vastly more powerful than what the wii u has, meaning any wii u port will require a major rework of the game (costing devs $$$), will be a stripped down version of the original (not the greatest selling point), and if the wii u has a small ass user-base... whats the point?

sounds like nintendo is just trying to buy time right now. take some risks, nintendo! set up a bunch of small internal dev teams to pump out games! realize some will likely fail miserably... but some could very well save the wii u.
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Slash Mar 16, 13
Pretty late to the party Nintendo.
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Dynamite Mar 18, 13
I don't think it's realistic to expect this latest generation of consoles to be flying off the shelf akin to the 360/PS3. If you think about it, we've hit the point now where there's some serious diminishing returns in the graphics improvement area. No longer are we seeing the huge discrepancy in graphics like we did from PSX-> PS2 or even PS2 -> PS3/360. This is no longer a point on which sales hinge therefore not a major reason for people to rush out and buy them.

I think it will be a little harder for Nintendo/MS/Sony to sell this emerging generation of consoles because, largely, people are already happy with the features they have. There's only so much you can put into a console and the fact that they already act as entertainment/media hubs, being able to access TV on demand, stream stuff from the Internet, interact with social media, etc. will mean that the more casual audience will see very little reason to switch out their PS3 for a PS4 or 720.

Innovation in games, providing more obscure, but useful, features and attempting to refine existing ones will essentially be what draws people to the next gen. of console. In my opinion, uptake will be slow for all of the new gens. as the gap between them and the current generation is probably smaller than it has ever been.
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