Neoseeker : News : One Dumb Question That Will Define Sony's Console Announcement
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Ville_Valo Feb 21, 13
quote Rabla
Well they ended the conference with "Holiday 2013" on the screen. Besides that, yeah, there's nothing right now except "Playstation 4 exists, here are some games for it"
Oh did they? My bad, I didn't think that had happened.
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lalaprola Feb 21, 13
so what about the playstation network and my trophies?


will my trophies still be there if i purchase a ps4 when it is released?
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Rabla Feb 21, 13
quote Ville_Valo
There's no date. There's no release window. There's nothing. This is pure speculation, passed as fact. I'm sick of it.
Well they ended the conference with "Holiday 2013" on the screen. Besides that, yeah, there's nothing right now except "Playstation 4 exists, here are some games for it"
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Ville_Valo Feb 21, 13
quote Rabla
What's with that link?
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The PlayStation 4 is scheduled for release this holiday. Sony have not yet announced a release date or price for the console.
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/20/playstation-4-wont-play-playstation-3-games-coming-this-holiday/#tP1soqD5ZuWmC8wA.99
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Playstation 4 is scheduled for release this holiday. Except that it isn't.
There's no date. There's no release window. There's nothing. This is pure speculation, passed as fact. I'm sick of it.
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harbin Feb 21, 13
Streaming PS3 games? Streaming a massive potentially 25GB game to your console over the Internet. Can't see that working well over here since the Internet is barely decent at best, unless you get a hard copy of it on the HDD... even then though, that would quickly fill up space. Simply put, the success of that is based purely on the infrastructure being good enough to carry it and most times my Internet connection can't even manage a SD video without having to spend a minute buffering it.

TBH though, I'm not sure where the issue is. If it will play a PS3 game as a downloaded version on the harddrive then surely it must be capable of playing it off the disc... even with upgrades in the bluray disc with BDXL having capacities up to 128Gb, the drive should still be capable of reading a normal bluray disc.
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Rabla Feb 21, 13
quote harbin
Apparently there will be no backwards compatability in the PS4 so if you want to continue PS3 games, either still use that or will have to buy it again from the PSN since PS3 downloads will be allowed on that.
PS3 games natively will not work on the PS4 hardware. It's the equivalent of putting a Wii game into a Xbox due to the way the new platform is designed.

However, this is their solution, and it also extends to both PS2 and PS1
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harbin Feb 21, 13
BBC Article on it

Apparently there will be no backwards compatability in the PS4 so if you want to continue PS3 games, either still use that or will have to buy it again from the PSN since PS3 downloads will be allowed on that. Dick move from Sony if its true, motivated purely by money for that since they'll take a cut of sales from the PSN store and pass on the rest of the money to the publishers and developers. Quite a putoff for me since I only own a PS3 as a christmas present, I'm largely a PC gamer now and will usually only buy a console for exclusives or playing older games on it (the only reason my PS2 is still set up). Backwards compatability would've been a deciding factor in that but without it, I doubt I'd pay the cost to buy the PS4 since to play older games I'd still have to purchase them in the Playstation Store again (without so much as a discount for already owning the game). The money would be better off spent upgrading my PC further which retains full backwards compatability so long as there is an OS there that can still run the older games... if not, dual boot will take care of that. That is also mainly due to the fact that most of the PS/2 games I have aren't available on the PSN and I doubt they ever will be, at a discounted cost due to already owning them.

Other things have described it as a supercharged PC.

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It runs off an x86-based CPU (central processing unit) - similar architecture to that found in most desktop computers - and an "enhanced" PC GPU (graphics processing unit). Both CPU and GPU are designed by the US firm Advanced Micro Devices (AMD).
It would be interesting to see what AMD come up with but chances are it'll end up being one of their APUs or a discrete custom HD7xxx series GPU and a low end FX series CPU. Basically by the time it will come out, it'll already be a year or two behind many gaming PCs.




Consoles, are shifting from pure gaming machines though, in the same way that a PC is no longer an office tool and a mobile phone is no longer a communicator. Basically they've seen a consumer want something that can mainly do it's primary function (gaming in terms of console, productivity in terms of PC, and contacting people in terms of phones) but also multimedia aswell, the PS3 makes a brilliant bluray and media centre especially if the media centre OS is installed.
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Rabla Feb 20, 13
quote bluexy
Rabla What do you think?
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bluexy Feb 20, 13
Rabla What do you think?
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Rabla Feb 20, 13
So bluexy, what answer did you get?
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Ville_Valo Feb 20, 13
quote Jeterocks
Aren't they already "Home Entertainment Consoles"? The PS3 was a marketed as a full media hub in your living room. It even had the option to install another OS when it was first launched.
Yeah, but the Xbox 360 wasn't. I guess they're still pressing that angle
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Jeterocks Feb 20, 13
Aren't they already "Home Entertainment Consoles"? The PS3 was a marketed as a full media hub in your living room. It even had the option to install another OS when it was first launched.
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rpg Feb 20, 13
Nice, like many I've been focused on the biggest questions for answers which will come in time but when I first read the question I thought it was dumb too, then I read a couple of sentences more and found it to be honestly most important IMO.

I buy a console for the purpose of playing console games only and the thought that sony or any other company could gear their gaming consoles more towards anything else is scary, shame though you would probably get a very political answer favering both the games and the media part.
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