Neoseeker : News : Rumor: Leak shows Xbox 720 specs, should rival a high-end gaming PC
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Supernova1332 Jan 21, 13
Zombie_Barioth
The clock speed is limited by the architecture in this case, it's a cpu made more for the mobile and casual arena's which means power consumption is a huge factor. Designing a cpu for low power put certain limitations on how high it can scale. It's the same reasons that arm cores in phones don't scale to the same ghz as high end desktop processors.
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Shadow of Death Jan 21, 13
quote Northern49
Of course all of this that has been said about consoles not requiring as much to power as a PC to do similar tasks is true, but this fact will only apply to those who only want to game. A PC is designed to do everything. The cost may seem high, but compare the cost of a full power PC to the combined cost of a laptop + a console, and you're looking at spending about the same price. The only difference is now you'll have 2 different power buttons and a lot more wires.
Aye, this is an often overlooked aspect of PC gaming. "Oh, but a nice gaming PC with more power than current consoles is $800 (If you self-build)! That's way more than the cost of any of the consoles". They don't consider that most people would want a PC anyway, so it's not so much that you're spending even more money in order to get a gaming PC, but rather you're either building it yourself or spending a bit more on top of the base price of the device you'd get anyway. Works out to be less or about the same, so long as you don't go crazy (like I did XD).
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Zombie_Barioth Jan 21, 13
quote Supernova1332
Zombie_Barioth
The clock speed is limited by the architecture in this case, it's a cpu made more for the mobile and casual arena's which means power consumption is a huge factor. Designing a cpu for low power put certain limitations on how high it can scale. It's the same reasons that arm cores in phones don't scale to the same ghz as high end desktop processors.
I actually missed your first post at first (my cat decided to go Mr. Hyde on me, making my post take much longer than it should have) but yea using Jaguar would explain it.

As far as price goes theres no big difference unless your building a PC you don't actually need from scratch specifically for games. Most pre-built PCs are $400-$600 to begin with so it really comes just down to discrete GPU (and possibly a new PSU) vs console.
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BlackLabel Jan 22, 13
quote Zombie_Barioth
Not really interested in the "720" but I'm really curious about how this will affect things if true. Most games don't make much use of that many cores but if the new Xbox uses that many then we could possibly see more that do. Though I'm guessing the low clock speed is to keep heat levels down, the RROD fiasco must have made them more careful this time around.
Chances are if Xbox 720 becomes a household name just like the Xbox 360 then 8Gb RAM will be the standard, 8 core CPU's will be the standard. This console will push PC gaming along nicely which is what gamers want. Gaming on PC has been stuck in the 2Gb RAM, Dual/Quad core mold for far too long. I mean games still don't even utilise hyper-threading which would increase performance in a big way. For a year or two after this console comes out graphics will explode in quality and games will look better than most people could even imagine.
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Northern49 Jan 22, 13
Just looking at the number of cores is a bad way to look at it. A quality dual core can still out perform an eight core. I hope the 720 is a real gaming machine, but from the sound of how the market is doing, not a lot of people care about graphics. The Wii made a lot of money, while the PS3 saw comparatively low sales to the 360 and Wii. Microsoft doesn't see graphic capabilities as totally important, and although graphics will increase from last generation, I highly doubt it will be as high of an upgrade as some people think it will be.

The eight core CPU and 8GB ram might have something to with the Xbox coming with Windows 8 RT, which is the operating system that the Windows 8 tablets come with, indicating that Microsoft wants to bring the PC to the living room, with multitasking and general browsing, computer use. Gaming is taking a back leg, as companies are now realizing the real money is in the super-casual gamer, the one who plays maybe an hour per month of an actual game, and the rest of it streaming Netflix. The advantage is for Microsoft, that unlike many games, an Xbox Live account is necessary to use many online features that the Xbox 720 will make virtually necessary to enjoy your machine. It's a spider's web.
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batsman Jan 22, 13
quote Gligar
Still have a feeling that ps4 will dominate on the specification side
Im almost 100 precent sure on this
Altough acording to rumors its speed will be downgraded by 10 precent

And both are rediculously slow if you ask me, xbox 720 will get a slight speed upgrade of 20 precent, but still nowhere near as fast as the PS3, so the PS3 would be the fastest console even in next gen

GPU and RAM should get major upgrades tough
But i think its stupid to make them so insanely slow, looks like PC gaming will *bleep* all next gen consoles put together
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Zombie_Barioth Jan 22, 13
quote BlackLabel
quote Zombie_Barioth
Not really interested in the "720" but I'm really curious about how this will affect things if true. Most games don't make much use of that many cores but if the new Xbox uses that many then we could possibly see more that do. Though I'm guessing the low clock speed is to keep heat levels down, the RROD fiasco must have made them more careful this time around.
Chances are if Xbox 720 becomes a household name just like the Xbox 360 then 8Gb RAM will be the standard, 8 core CPU's will be the standard. This console will push PC gaming along nicely which is what gamers want. Gaming on PC has been stuck in the 2Gb RAM, Dual/Quad core mold for far too long. I mean games still don't even utilise hyper-threading which would increase performance in a big way. For a year or two after this console comes out graphics will explode in quality and games will look better than most people could even imagine.
I'm aware that the next gen consoles could very well push 8-cores as a standard, I mean that I'm curious about seeing it all unfold.

As for if all the cores and big bump in RAM make a difference it'll depend on what MS actually has planned. For all we know half of it will be used for Kinect and whatever other harebrained ideas they have up their sleeves.
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Dreadlock Holiday Jan 25, 13
Well I'll probably add this to my console list. The specs sound excellent, I wonder what other consoles have planned for the 720's release.

I can only imagine what titles will come out on this console.
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