Neoseeker : News : EA disputes claims that failing to report SimCity bugs in beta could get you banned from all EA games
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BlackScythe Jan 21, 13
quote Shadow of Death
EA, we're not your bloody beta testers.
But this is an article about not reporting bugs in the beta, which would mean in order to experience this you had agreed to be a beta tester for them...

EA should really know by now that there is always the random dude who will read through the dozens of pages of EULA garbage. They should also know they are one of the most hated companies in the US and people are watching them. So wording it so strongly? Not a good move.

On the other hand I kind of support the idea behind it, though not the extreme of the draconian punishment. I've been in a few betas, many the majority of people treat it like early access and make no effort to report issues to the developers. In fact many of the betas I've been in, most recently being the wow mop beta, people have actively looked for major exploits that allowed them to greif people in insane ways.

TLDR: I support removing people from a beta who are not taking it seriously. I do not support banning people from products they have paid for due to the fact they aren't taking their unpaid volunteer beta experience seriously.
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Shadow of Death Jan 21, 13
quote BlackScythe
quote Shadow of Death
EA, we're not your bloody beta testers.
But this is an article about not reporting bugs in the beta, which would mean in order to experience this you had agreed to be a beta tester for them...
Lol, big face_palm (or Face_hoof) from me. I sort of missed that whole bit about this being about the beta >_>

So yeah, disregard that line XD
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Duncan Idaho Jan 21, 13
quote Wakaman
quote Ded Valve
EA...do everyone a favor and go bankrupt. And while your at it take Capcom with you. Their IP's can be sold to companies that care.
Let's do a satanic ritual, EA & Capcom for THQ's salvation. I'll get the virgin blood.
i have some grimoires, book of eibon, necronomicon, scrolls of the dead sea, pknoptic manupscripts, der vermis mysteries, the celano fragments, so if you or ded want one contact me! (no i wont give you the solomon king keys, that is a whole different level of grimoire, i want to burn EA and capcom, not to wipe every videogame company of the Akashic Records and by proxy out of the world)
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ims2golfer Jan 22, 13
Lolololololololol
But, how would I know if it was a bug or not? And if the bug was just a person glitching through a surface, if I failed to report it, I would get banned from everything EA? Holy shitttttee you're dumb. I could MAAYBE see this with a competitive game, but Sim City???
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DedValve Jan 22, 13
You know there's this crazy theory but it hasn't been proven true (disregard every indie game ever). If you don't treat your fans like absolute shit they will be more than willing to help you in any way possible. But that's just a theory.
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Yick Jan 22, 13
Yikes, this is a little extreme... Maxis developers are probably just thinking "wtf are you doing, EA?"
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S-I-E Jan 22, 13
"If you know about a Bug or have heard about a Bug and fail to report the Bug to EA, we reserve the right to treat you no differently from someone who abuses the Bug. You acknowledge that EA reserve the right to lock anyone caught abusing a Bug out of all EA products."

ahahaha!
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Smell The Chiken Jan 23, 13
Saw this on facebook:

quote SimCity Facebook Page
Heads up, Mayors – it’s been brought to our attention that there’s been some confusion regarding the bug-reporting policy in the EA beta test agreement for SimCity.

Don’t worry – EA has never taken away access to a player’s games for failing to report a bug. In fact, we’re in the process of updating our agreement to make this point clear before the beta starts this Friday. If you have any more questions, read our FAQ: http://bit.ly/UCpuAA

Hope to see you in the beta Friday!
It's Maxis we're talking about, so they are trying to clear things up. Looks like it was just a case of bad wording.

RabidChinaGirl
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Fortitudo Jan 23, 13
EA are still a bunch of assholes. I hope the CEO jumps off a cliff and lets someone who isn't a complete money grabbing and selfish twat to take over.

I hope the "angry" gaming community know this is just a justification and not the real reason why they're changing their EULA for the beta. They're probably not that stupid though to think not. Angry gamers have done many things against EA owned companies...*cough*BiowareandMasseffect3ending*cough*
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S-I-E Jan 23, 13
*looks at the update*

another job well done! help us continue our work by depositing a cookie in the jar to your right when you exit the area. thank you and have a pleasant day.
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nipsen Jan 23, 13
"Bad wording"? Riight.

In the Battlefield 3 beta, they specifically prohibited beta participants from talking about server issues. Such as the fact that the game was set up to use servers on the opposite end of the world for load-balancing.

EA doesn't do things like that by accident, they do them on purpose. Next EULA from EA probably includes "If you're thinking about not liking our game in any way, you are prohibited from talking about it - WE WILL KNOW IF YOU DO! WE SEE ALL!".
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Zombie_Barioth Jan 23, 13
So then are you telling me nobody involved with the EULA though to go back over it at all or even question their wording as it was written, that nobody at a company of that size had the business sense to spot something even slightly iffy? I find it really hard to believe that ended up in the EULA by "accident".
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Duncan Idaho Jan 24, 13
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"If you know about a Bug or have heard about a Bug and fail to report the Bug to EA, we reserve the right to treat you no differently from someone who abuses the Bug. You acknowledge that EA reserve the right to lock anyone caught abusing a Bug out of all EA products."
WTF?! is this the new wording? it's still the same crap as the original, EA isnt paying enough to their lawyers, that much i can tell, the wording is different but the content is the same, plus the locking part is still banning you from all EA products since they dont limit it to the BETA of Sim City
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Shadow of Death Jan 24, 13
Duncan Idaho - Ummm, you're looking at the original part of the article XD The stuff before the horizontal rule (that thin horizontal line) is part of the update, and the new wording is not yet finalized, so far as we know. They're in the process of changing it >_>
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Duncan Idaho Jan 24, 13
quote Shadow of Death
Duncan Idaho - Ummm, you're looking at the original part of the article XD The stuff before the horizontal rule (that thin horizontal line) is part of the update, and the new wording is not yet finalized, so far as we know. They're in the process of changing it >_>
mind if i say that is the most counter intuitive edit? i was under the impression that the stuff below the line was the update (as in my point of view is logical to do) not adding stuff before the line.
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