Neoseeker : News : UK's Dead Island Riptide 'Zombie Bait Edition' puts a bloody torso statue in a bikini, grossing us out
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bronze0800 Jan 15, 13
want one
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kuje Jan 15, 13
Me too, I don't get why people are bitching about this.
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Wakaman Jan 15, 13
Yeah, don't see why people are bitching myself, I suppose it's cause of the female torso?

Still, imagine how the guy who pitched the idea must feel right about now.
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bluexy Jan 15, 13
wtf, video games, wtf.

Edit: I'm going to be 100% okay with being thumbs downed here. This sort of thing is not okay. Deep Silver is attempting to sell a statue of the half-naked, disfigured corpse of a woman as a bonus for purchasing their game.

How freaking literal does this make the argument that women are treated terribly in video games and our industry? "Well, at least we don't treat women like naked pieces of meat and try to profit off of it."

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"Oh."

Damnit, video games. Grow up.
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harbin Jan 15, 13
But there's boobs which clearly makes it alright.

Not sure if they're complaining because it's just violent in general or because the mutilated body of a female will somehow promote violence towards women.
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RabidChinaGirl Jan 15, 13
harbin I'm willing to guess it's a bit of both. I just found it pretty gross in general, namely because it looks more human than undead. :\
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Lorx Jan 15, 13
Just screams...why? Or, it would, if it had a head.

Could easily fit in a room (very) full of random gaming/horror tidbits, but the problem with it is, that's a rather small subset of people when compared to the entire community for the game.

That's of course, without going near the subject of "How are we supposed to convince the world this media form is grown up, if all we do is flash tits at every corner", but whatever. I am disappoint.

I'm all for killing up some zombies in my games, regardless of gender, as both are trying to kill me all the same. But there's a kind of big difference from slashing up some zombies, and having a mutilated bikini model propped up in my room.
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Wakaman Jan 15, 13
I'm gonna say it, I don't see how this would promote violence towards women. I find that particularily stupid.

I don't see the jokes about sandwich making and then go yell at my mother to get back in the kitchen, wtf is that.

I do however see why a half naked torso of a woman would be upsetting.
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Lorx Jan 15, 13
Calling it now by the way, Fox News is going to try to argue that it will cause violence against women once they catch wind of it.

rabidchinagirl just curious, how fast on the catch were Deep Silver? Like, time between initial announcement and apology.
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RabidChinaGirl Jan 15, 13
quote Lorx
Calling it now by the way, Fox News is going to try to argue that it will cause violence against women once they catch wind of it.
Joke's on you; Fox doesn't care about women!

Gonna take a stab at it though. I'd reason that this continues the objectification of women, much like so many forms of media already do (there's a study of advertisements emphasizing women's parts, not their faces). That can, in turn, further facilitate violence against women.
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bluexy Jan 15, 13
Wakaman It doesn't inherently encourage those sorts of things. BUT, the continued portrayal of women in sexually objectifying or derogatory manners creates a broader perspective and perception, perpetuating an attitude where women continue to be sexually objectified or treated in derogatory ways.

So while it's difficult or nigh impossible to claim any specific instance is directly contributory to this perpetuation, once you're aware of it it's difficult not to be continually disgusted.

In all fairness, this sort of statue is right in line with British humor and likely intended to be a very pointed joke, but this just isn't the place for that. They should be more responsible. Maybe the goal was controversy, though, in which case, bravo.
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kuje Jan 15, 13
quote bluexy
wtf, video games, wtf.

Edit: I'm going to be 100% okay with being thumbs downed here. This sort of thing is not okay. Deep Silver is attempting to sell a statue of the half-naked, disfigured corpse of a woman as a bonus for purchasing their game.

How freaking literal does this make the argument that women are treated terribly in video games and our industry? "Well, at least we don't treat women like naked pieces of meat and try to profit off of it."

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"Oh."

Damnit, video games. Grow up.
Aren't you reading too much into this? It's just a freaking collectible. You kill zombie girls in bikinis in the game. It's become an iconic thing for the franchise it has nothing to do with the degradation of women.

Oh no Lara Croft is being *bleep* in the new Tomb Raider game. Let's make a big deal about how degrading it is for women.

People watch Die Hard on christmas eve with their kids. God forbid those kids played a GTA game.

It feels like every time the problems of society are introduced to games people flip out.
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Lorx Jan 15, 13
If "taking it at face value" is reading too much into it, I'm concerned what actually looking into something would be classified as kuje.

Or, alternative answer: We should always be looking "too much into" this kind of thing. There's no reason not to, the end result is a better understanding of not only our medium of entertainment but also a deeper understanding of how better to portray it to the world at large. That's a good thing, understanding and learning, good things. Taking steps to make sure video games aren't so easily picked out by news corporations as "violence breeders", even better thing. Appearances matter, they matter quite a lot.
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Wakaman Jan 15, 13


quote bluexy
Wakaman It doesn't inherently encourage those sorts of things. BUT, the continued portrayal of women in sexually objectifying or derogatory manners creates a broader perspective and perception, perpetuating an attitude where women continue to be sexually objectified or treated in derogatory ways.
Well we aren't helping much with that either. They keep doing things like exaggerated breast movements and such in DOA/Soul Calibur etc. because we keep buying the damn things and not speaking up.

quote bluexy
So while it's difficult or nigh impossible to claim any specific instance is directly contributory to this perpetuation, once you're aware of it it's difficult not to be continually disgusted.

In all fairness, this sort of statue is right in line with British humor and likely intended to be a very pointed joke, but this just isn't the place for that. They should be more responsible. Maybe the goal was controversy, though, in which case, bravo.

Tbh it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
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