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Zombie_Barioth Jan 16, 13
BlackScythe Thats true, although thats not so obvious to younger players (which most of us were back then). You could also do the same with the other fire starters but I was talking purely in terms of type match-ups and available pokemon at that point in the game. The newer games have also been making the beginning more balanced as far as how starter choice affects difficulty.
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Jace2012 Jan 17, 13
Zombie_Barioth I agree with you.

StrykerHedgehog Charmander is the other starter that is pure Fire type.

Anyways, I think that starters are about style mostly. In the end they do not affect your gameplay that much. I think that type versatility is more important in a team. For example in BW2 if you do not choose Tepig as your starter you can always catch a Darumaka later on which is better by far. Same goes with other starters, although i have not found any decent Water types and i am at the 5th Gym. Any suggestions?
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StrykerHedgehog Jan 17, 13
quote Jace2012
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StrykerHedgehog Charmander is the other starter that is pure Fire type.[/i]

Im talking about Starters that stay pure Fire/Water/Grass throughout their evolutions. The only Gen to do that so far is Gen II. Ever since Gen II Charizard has been a Fire/Flying. Hence Cyndaquil is the only pure Fire Starter.
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Jace2012 Jan 17, 13
quote StrykerHedgehog
quote Jace2012
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StrykerHedgehog Charmander is the other starter that is pure Fire type.[/i]

Im talking about Starters that stay pure Fire/Water/Grass throughout their evolutions. The only Gen to do that so far is Gen II. Ever since Gen II Charizard has been a Fire/Flying. Hence Cyndaquil is the only pure Fire Starter.
To think that I had forgotten Charizard's Flying type... Mea culpa my friend.
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bbb7002004 Jan 17, 13
quote BlackScythe
I really never understood people who listed the two gyms as a flaw of charmander.
Pretty simple really, that's what the instruction books said. They spelled out pretty plainly that Bulbasaur was the easier start, having type advantages to the first three gyms as well as evolving at lower levels, Squirtle was the middle ground, and Charmander being weak to the first two gyms and taking the longest to evolve. Whether or not it is or ever was relevant, that was the thought that was intended in the very beginning by the developers.
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StrykerHedgehog Jan 17, 13
quote bbb7002004
quote BlackScythe
I really never understood people who listed the two gyms as a flaw of charmander.
Pretty simple really, that's what the instruction books said. They spelled out pretty plainly that Bulbasaur was the easier start, having type advantages to the first three gyms as well as evolving at lower levels, Squirtle was the middle ground, and Charmander being weak to the first two gyms and taking the longest to evolve. Whether or not it is or ever was relevant, that was the thought that was intended in the very beginning by the developers.
Yet there are players who can beat Brock and Misty despite having a Charmander or Charmeleon.
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bbb7002004 Jan 17, 13
And your point is what exactly?
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StrykerHedgehog Jan 17, 13
quote bbb7002004
And your point is what exactly?
my point is that it can be done. I've done it. But it just takes patience.
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bbb7002004 Jan 17, 13
It's not supposed to be impossible, just slightly harder than the other two in the original version. Its still pokemon afterall.
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azavier Jan 17, 13
quote bbb7002004
It's not supposed to be impossible, just slightly harder than the other two in the original version. Its still pokemon afterall.
You want impossible, go at Brock with just Pikachu in Yellow, with Quick Attack being your only non Electric type move. Dear lord I have never spammed so many moves trying to get to Struggle before. And then shortly after that there is a hiker who has 3 Pokemon instead of 2 that are all stronger than Brock's and all Ground type.
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StrykerHedgehog Jan 17, 13
quote azavier
quote bbb7002004
It's not supposed to be impossible, just slightly harder than the other two in the original version. Its still pokemon afterall.
You want impossible, go at Brock with just Pikachu in Yellow, with Quick Attack being your only non Electric type move. Dear lord I have never spammed so many moves trying to get to Struggle before. And then shortly after that there is a hiker who has 3 Pokemon instead of 2 that are all stronger than Brock's and all Ground type.
One reason why I never beat Yellow. Im planing on doing it on an emulator because I know what to do now. Rule 1 for Pokemon Yellow - Mankeys are your friends.
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Zombie_Barioth Jan 17, 13
quote Jace2012
Zombie_Barioth I agree with you.

StrykerHedgehog Charmander is the other starter that is pure Fire type.

Anyways, I think that starters are about style mostly. In the end they do not affect your gameplay that much. I think that type versatility is more important in a team. For example in BW2 if you do not choose Tepig as your starter you can always catch a Darumaka later on which is better by far. Same goes with other starters, although i have not found any decent Water types and i am at the 5th Gym. Any suggestions?
Again, I's say thats true. Your starter only really affects the first couple of gyms, afterwards you have access to a nice variety of pokemon to balance thing out. More so for the newer games since they've been making pokemon strong against the gyms more available. The "difficulty" only effects younger players that might actually want to start with the easier choice.

Good water types were a bit harder to come by this time around, they pretty much saved the good ones for late game. Golduck, Vaporeon, and Swanna are good choices at that point until you get surf.
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Jace2012 Jan 18, 13
quote Zombie_Barioth
quote Jace2012
Zombie_Barioth I agree with you.

StrykerHedgehog Charmander is the other starter that is pure Fire type.

Anyways, I think that starters are about style mostly. In the end they do not affect your gameplay that much. I think that type versatility is more important in a team. For example in BW2 if you do not choose Tepig as your starter you can always catch a Darumaka later on which is better by far. Same goes with other starters, although i have not found any decent Water types and i am at the 5th Gym. Any suggestions?
Again, I's say thats true. Your starter only really affects the first couple of gyms, afterwards you have access to a nice variety of pokemon to balance thing out. More so for the newer games since they've been making pokemon strong against the gyms more available. The "difficulty" only effects younger players that might actually want to start with the easier choice.

Good water types were a bit harder to come by this time around, they pretty much saved the good ones for late game. Golduck, Vaporeon, and Swanna are good choices at that point until you get surf.

You can find Vaporeon (or Eevee) in the wild?

quote StrykerHedgehog
quote azavier
quote bbb7002004
It's not supposed to be impossible, just slightly harder than the other two in the original version. Its still pokemon afterall.
You want impossible, go at Brock with just Pikachu in Yellow, with Quick Attack being your only non Electric type move. Dear lord I have never spammed so many moves trying to get to Struggle before. And then shortly after that there is a hiker who has 3 Pokemon instead of 2 that are all stronger than Brock's and all Ground type.
One reason why I never beat Yellow. Im planing on doing it on an emulator because I know what to do now. Rule 1 for Pokemon Yellow - Mankeys are your friends.

That!

At the Grass where you first battle your rival (at the start of the road to E4 you can catch a Mankey and kick Brock to the ground! (with fighting moves). That is how i cleared yellow at least
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Zermonious Jan 18, 13
quote BlackScythe
I still haven't figured out how I feel about chespin. It really looks way too much like Oshawott. I mean I'm sure it's supposed to be a chipmunk but it just doesn't look as good as the others.
I actually think Chespin's a hedgehog.
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BlackScythe Jan 18, 13
quote Jace2012

You can find Vaporeon (or Eevee) in the wild?

In B2/W2? Yea in Castelia city, not sure I got the name right it's the city with the bug gym.
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