Neoseeker : News : Valve bringing multiple custom hardware prototypes to CES, including "Piston" prototype from Xi3
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DedValve Jan 8, 13
What iOS it will run on? Lol Apple now owns all OS's and renamed them iOS's apparently.

Going from the looks of it, we may very well be getting an android treatment here with the Steambox. Their might be the definitive version released by Valve itself making full use of Modular Gaming (I had a picture that perfectly explains why modular PC's is the next evolution and consoles will cease to exist but uploading it makes it extremely blurry for some reason) and then they might license the steam box name or something similar to other manufacturers to keep the hardware environment growing and meet any specific needs or price ranges.

That is one tiny box though. I bet Nintendo feels silly now severely limiting their CPU (and thus game development) just so they can have a smaller box only to be thwarted.
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bluexy Jan 8, 13
Ded Valve That never happened. This is what writing about mobile games has done to this site. ABANDON SHIP.
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Nagare Jan 8, 13
The Valve sold box will run Linux and allow Windows to be easily installed. They're talking to a bunch of vendors though which makes it a lot more interesting and also less important. Soon it may be just like Ultrabooks. In the interview, GabeN said that all the vendors are free to call their product a Steambox if they want...
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Wakaman Jan 8, 13
Won't the real Steam Box pls stand up? pls stand up? pls stand up?
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lKasHl Jan 8, 13
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3852144/gabe-newell-interview-steam-box-future-of-gaming
Alot more information there, apparently its going to be running Linux therefore no backwards compatibility with any of the major windows releases/upcoming games on windows (might take a while for steam box to gain the market share required to incentivise devs switching from dx to open gl).
Without DX support I can imagine the lower spec models selling well, but little reason to have a high end model since the most Open GL games are non-power hungry indie games. But isn't that what the Ouya is for?
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bluexy Jan 8, 13
quote lKasHl
... apparently its going to be running Linux therefore no backwards compatibility with any of the major windows releases/upcoming games on windows...
I should write up a feature on what we actually know about this "Steam Box" because Gabe and Valve have actually been really open and honest about it.

The only point I wanted to make with this article is that none of the things you're reading about at CES are the Steam Box. Precursors of the Box? Maybe, but nothing written in stone.
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Nagare Jan 8, 13
It depends on what you mean by that. There is nothing to say they aren't steamboxes. Are they Valve's specific model? Not yet.
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bluexy Jan 8, 13
nagare Again, this sensationalist news today is creating two different terms here. We're talking first vs. third party products. None of these products at CES are first party Valve, but are funded by Valve. They won't, however, ever be branded a "Steam Box" unless Valve buys them out right, in which case they would still be different products entirely.

A Steam Box, as in, the product Valve has been openly discussing the process of design over the past few months, is a piece of hardware design and made by Valve in house. This first party piece of hardware will run Linux, won't be released in 2013, and may or may not be modular.
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Nagare Jan 8, 13
The products so far are just attempts to woo Valve into using their ideas or components in the Valve Steambox. As for what they will or won't be branded in the end, how are we supposed to know? This quote shows (in my eyes at least) that they can call it whatever they want:

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Go ahead. You can always sell the Best box, and those are just whatever those guys want to manufacture. [Valve's position is]: let's build a thing that’s quiet and focuses on high performance and quiet and appropriate form factors.
I personally feel like the term Steambox will come to mean something similar to the term UIltrabook where it is more along the lines of a spec sheet that manufacturers would have to conform to if they wish to be able to use the label for their products. If the product doesn't match up, it can't be labeled as a Steambox.
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lKasHl Jan 8, 13
quote bluexy
quote lKasHl
... apparently its going to be running Linux therefore no backwards compatibility with any of the major windows releases/upcoming games on windows...
I should write up a feature on what we actually know about this "Steam Box" because Gabe and Valve have actually been really open and honest about it.

The only point I wanted to make with this article is that none of the things you're reading about at CES are the Steam Box. Precursors of the Box? Maybe, but nothing written in stone.
While I can't say its set in stone, Gabe seems pretty adamant on linux, he'd better be after (for some presumably unjustified reason) claiming Win8 is the death of PC gaming. Hardware wise you're right, looks like Valve for now is just experimenting trying to find a good mix..

I also like how they've been so open and honest, I guess thats what you get when the corporation heads consist of legitimate enthusiasts instead of the standard ruthless capitalist.
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Zombie_Barioth Jan 9, 13
quote lKasHl
While I can't say its set in stone, Gabe seems pretty adamant on linux, he'd better be after (for some presumably unjustified reason) claiming Win8 is the death of PC gaming. Hardware wise you're right, looks like Valve for now is just experimenting trying to find a good mix..

I also like how they've been so open and honest, I guess thats what you get when the corporation heads consist of legitimate enthusiasts instead of the standard ruthless capitalist.
I see his point that the interface could be a turn off for some, which could make someone not want to bother with PCs. Weather or not windows 8 actually has anything to do with the drop in PC sales is something else.

And yea, I agree about them being open and honest. It should go without saying that you can respect someone telling it like it is alot more than some faceless corporation using PR spin. Being enthusiasts also gives them a better understanding of both sides of the industry.
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DedValve Jan 9, 13
I'm excited to see how far Valve pushes Linux. If anything a steambox will be key in bringing most 3rd party PC supporters to also develop on Linux.
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harbin Jan 9, 13
So basically it's a custom built PC, marketed as a high power games console that will cost anywhere from a PS3 to a good gaming PC?

I doubt it will run full blown Linux though, it will probably be a version of Linux adapted into Steam in the same way that Chrome OS runs (program adapted to be an OS).

Still to the average gamer it will probably attract more attention than that Ouya. To the hardcore gamer, it will not defeat a PC.

Since it pretty much is a PC though I expect it to be able to run Windows, which pretty much means that you'd probably be better off buying a normal PC anyway. Also, I hope those vents have fans at the side to help with cooling.
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DedValve Jan 9, 13
quote harbin
So basically it's a custom built PC, marketed as a high power games console that will cost anywhere from a PS3 to a good gaming PC?

I doubt it will run full blown Linux though, it will probably be a version of Linux adapted into Steam in the same way that Chrome OS runs (program adapted to be an OS).

Still to the average gamer it will probably attract more attention than that Ouya. To the hardcore gamer, it will not defeat a PC.

Since it pretty much is a PC though I expect it to be able to run Windows, which pretty much means that you'd probably be better off buying a normal PC anyway. Also, I hope those vents have fans at the side to help with cooling.
The price, size and specs are all just in this particular box. Valve has yet to release a benchmark for the true Steambox and from the looks of it all "steamboxes" will run Linux.
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