Neoseeker : News : Sony patent allows tracking of second-hand games and the ability to block their usage
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Paranoid Android Jan 5, 13
I can see why they're doing this but it's a major blow to video game retail shops and, most importantly, to the players. If I wanted to borrow a game from a friend I wouldn't be able to, without them giving me their console with it. Wtf?
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Sonic Flash Jan 5, 13
Seems easier to just make your platform all digital. It's not like Sony's ever given a damn about supporting older generations in their current one, and the prerequisite to having an online account seems doubly appealing to them and their partners that enjoy always-on DRM.
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Shave ya Head Jan 5, 13
quote bluexy
Imagine it this way: does Steam allow you to give away or trade your already redeemed games? If anything, Sony wants to create a Steam-like environment on their console, but without giving up the profits that come from retail for console games. The question then is... can Sony really ever compare to the service Steam provides?
The difference is that Steam regularly has ridiculous sales on.
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Ditnopota Jan 5, 13
This is tiring. As much as I love consoles and stuff, I'm thinking about saving the money I'd spend on new systems and building a spiffy computer with it instead.
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Shave ya Head Jan 5, 13
It definitely has its advantages Ditnopota. Cheap games, torrenting games, crazy deals on Steam etc. The only disadvantage really is that developers don't like PC's all that much. You're waiting months for a game that's out already on PS3 and 360. I swtiched from PS3 to PC in 2010 and haven't looked back. My PS3 never gets turned on now.
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DedValve Jan 5, 13
Steambox will save us. Berieeeeve.
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Zombie_Barioth Jan 5, 13
Been think of doing the same thing for a while now my self Ditnopota. The number of JRPGs on consoles have been declining (something that used to be abundant on Sony consoles) so theres little reason to get a PS4. After buying the Wii U($300-$350), the hdd($70-$80) and the only two games I want($120) I wouldn't be that far off from a nice PC anyway. A PC just makes sense at this point.
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haalyle Jan 7, 13
Yeah, I'm not going to get a PS4 if such stupid stuff like this happens to it.
Stick to my PS3 and PS2.

Sony, how damn stupid are you? First not making PS3 backwards for PS2, now this, yeah, I'm losing trust.
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Agent Mo Jan 8, 13
You guys are forgetting one really important thing, which is even more bullshit IF Sony decide to use this.

In order for them to be able to block the usage of a preowned game, your console has to be connected to the internet in order to be able to play the game in the first place, to get a sort of 'green light' that it's a new game. So what this means is, if you don't have an internet connection going to your PS4 (again, assuming Sony will actually decide to use this), you can't game.

Yeah.

EDIT: Lolling at the possibilty of losing progress since your last save in an RPG because PSN goes under maintenance.
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THM Jan 8, 13
Essential Internet connection; prevention of used games, all are bullshit...I'm sure they're myth for upcoming PS4 which won't be released until 2015!!! Far off for now
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DedValve Jan 8, 13
If PS4 releases in 2015, it will literally be Sony pushing the giant red nuclear button that is targeted at themselves.
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THM Jan 8, 13
Pushing a nuclear button is safer than a global low demand for new consoles. Remember: Only fools rush in!!!

The global economy is still weak at the moment, higher unemployment rates across Europe (over 11%: Millons of unemployed youths) and the dilemma of unemployments across the U.S., in addition to the market specuation of success for next-gen consoles is lower than ever (even for Wii U which is struggling to sell units at an expected rate). I'm sure Wii U's succes won't come until late 2014!

Releasing a next-gen console, i.e. PS4 or Xbox 720 without a proper plan is risky in 2013!! Without good launch games (just like Wii U did) will be tantamount to a suicide for SCEI and Microsoft....So, these two console compaines are taking a time which is absolutely needed for a proper planning of future console release.

This year E3 may or may not show new gens (only technical specifiations, I suppose) but I'm sure there will be no new consoles in 2013 or early 2014!
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DedValve Jan 8, 13
And whose to say that these companies don't have a proper plan? The development of a console happens about a year or two after the previous one has just been released. The xbox 360 was in development about a year after Xbox released internationally.

Microsoft has been very aggressive lately, and the fact that there are no new major xbox titles to be released late 2013 (even Gears of War which always has a fall release is being pushed forward into the spring as to not conflict with the NextBox). In fact outside of a handful there are no major games being released for current gen after summer. Any games that do will be cross gen games (showing both on 360/next box and PS3/PS4) if even.

These consoles have their entire life planned out ahead of them before their even hit the door, every major (successful) project works like that. A 2013 release for Microsoft is all but guaranteed, if Sony wants to stay competitive they will also shoot for this year.

Even Nintendo is bracing for the next generation, a 3D pokemon game being released WORLDWIDE in october after the previous sequel was just released? Bracing for impact.
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THM Jan 8, 13
Yes, even Master Plan can be changed or postpone or defer or (even stopped entirely) depends on the global/national/local economy.

Yes, previous consoles have been planned for years in-advanced, but if the global/national economy changes these plans are nothing but old papers on the agenda table.

Remember: there's always a contingency plan that takes over the original plan which never comes to exist as expected before, in this case, PS4 and Xbox 720 will be delayed for some time.

Every game/console tend to be delayed by unforeseen circumstances. Just don't expect/anticipate that strategic planning or Master Plan will lead to a success in-time!! It never happend in reality, folks (unless of course, Jesus make a plan himself).
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DedValve Jan 8, 13
quote THM
Yes, even Master Plan can be changed or postpone or defer or (even stopped entirely) depends on the global/national/local economy.

Yes, previous consoles have been planned for years in-advanced, but if the global/national economy changes these plans are nothing but old papers on the agenda table.

Remember: there's always a contingency plan that takes over the original plan which never comes to exist as expected before, in this case, PS4 and Xbox 720 will be delayed for some time.

Every game/console tend to be delayed by unforeseen circumstances. Just don't expect/anticipate that strategic planning or Master Plan will lead to a success in-time!! It never happend in reality, folks (unless of course, Jesus make a plan himself).
Of course there are contingencies and backup plans that change on the fly but to allow the competition to get a headstart for more than 2 years is not only crazy but can hurt you in the long haul as third party support will flock to Nintendo.

Not only that but the market isn't in such a horrible condition as you portray that consoles can't be succesful. Just look at the 3DS and the WiiU. The WiiU while struggling is definitely pulling it's own weight despite not having many huge first party titles that really push Nintendo consoles forward, and the 3DS has been outperforming the original DS in the same lifetime. Add on top of a newcomer in the console hardware group Valve which is also gunning for a release either this year or early next year and Microsofts/Sony lack of lineup in late 2013/2014, all signs point to MULTIPLE console releases this year.

By the way you constantly mention the global economy and what state is the global economy in now so bad that new consoles cannot possibly sell and how would you know that this supposedly "down" economy will improve in 2015? You've brought no evidence to suggest that a new console can't perform this year when WiiU has already refuted that point.
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