Neoseeker : News : Accusations of cheating at the League of Legends World Championship, Riot responds
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Etherlight Oct 7, 12
quote BluAnimal
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Reginald, after Team Solomid's 0-2 loss to team Azubu Frost, announced he was retiring from competitive League of Legends.
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Reginald considered retiring way before S2 Championships, win or lose. Also, he made another video stating that he's not retiring.
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bl00 Oct 7, 12
Lorx http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/brianpinneyphotography/AF1JPEG.jpg

And http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=537432&d=1349578938 clearly shows that the players can see the screen that displays the minimap from where they sit. It's pretty blatant, stop playing devil's advocate.
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euben0 Oct 7, 12
The picture with Dyrus looking up to the mini-map was when the game was paused and the maps blacked out. He was only looking to see if he could clearly see the mini-map.
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ShadowCrystallux Oct 8, 12
People will cry "CHEATER" in any competition. I remember 2008 olympics where someone was on marijuana or something and got busted. I know that's irrelevant but that just reminds me of this kind of thing. Fairplay is almost unheard of in the big competitions. Why? Humans are driven by desire, and will do anything to get what they desire, barring giving away their freedom. And who wouldn't want to win this competition?
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Grimdark Oct 8, 12
Don't use an irrelevant example to prove nothing. Yeah, he used marijuana, how is that bearing on the competition compared to steroids?
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ShadowCrystallux Oct 8, 12
Was merely explaining how humans are driven by desire, and how fairplay is uncommon these days. It actually all linked in the end, if you care to read DC Sniper .
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Tashur Astur Oct 8, 12
Honestly the incident at the 2008 Olympics isn't irrelevant. Marijuana doesn't give you any advantage in sports whatsoever that has been proven, as a result it's just people being "witch-hunting". I don't think Reginald had a clue that Frost were actually cheating when he said it, I think he was just concerned about how they knew where TSM were in some situations and then blamed cheating. Alot like when people blame lagg for deaths.

It turned out to be true, not too big of a surprise, like ShadowCrystallux said, when humans want something they'd do anything to get it. Shameful dispray.
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MegaBassMan Oct 8, 12
Don't know about 'true.'
A lot of people can be butthurt about a team losing and thus will misconstrue a lot of what goes on.
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Grimdark Oct 8, 12
quote ShadowCrystallux
Was merely explaining how humans are driven by desire, and how fairplay is uncommon these days. It actually all linked in the end, if you care to read DC Sniper .
So? Fairplay should be enforced. If he had used steroids, he would have been eliminated from the competition. Humans are also driven by instinct, which involve urges but you don't see everyone killing and *bleep* everything.

He used marijuana, which doesn't give a competitive advantage, so that's irrelevant. Looking at the screen would give an advantage and hence why they should be reprimanded for that. At least Riot is going to prevent such screenlooking in next week's games.
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Inuyasha Oct 8, 12
quote DC Sniper
quote ShadowCrystallux
Was merely explaining how humans are driven by desire, and how fairplay is uncommon these days. It actually all linked in the end, if you care to read DC Sniper .
So? Fairplay should be enforced. If he had used steroids, he would have been eliminated from the competition. Humans are also driven by instinct, which involve urges but you don't see everyone killing and *bleep* everything.

He used marijuana, which doesn't give a competitive advantage, so that's irrelevant. Looking at the screen would give an advantage and hence why they should be reprimanded for that. At least Riot is going to prevent such screenlooking in next week's games.
You're missing the point. Yes the fact he smoked weed is irrelevant, but the point was his opponents were still trying to get him DQ'd despite marijuana not having any effect on his performance, simply because

quote ShadowCrystallux
humans are driven by desire
and winning in a competitive scene is a hungry desire to fulfull, even by means of a false disqualification or screen-peeking.
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Grimdark Oct 8, 12
quote Inuyasha
[color=red][size=1]You're missing the point. Yes the fact he smoked weed is irrelevant, but the point was his opponents were still trying to get him DQ'd despite marijuana not having any effect on his performance, simply because
I see, I thought the point was that it somehow gave him an advantage. Oh well.
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Lorx Oct 8, 12
Yeah the point to take away from Crystallux's post is that people will do anything to attempt and win, including discrediting teams that beat them.

That's most likely why Riot stated officially that no cheating has happened, that's the foot coming down and the line being drawn.

quote bl00
Lorx http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/brianpinneyphotography/AF1JPEG.jpg

And http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=537432&d=1349578938 clearly shows that the players can see the screen that displays the minimap from where they sit. It's pretty blatant, stop playing devil's advocate.
That's not what devil's advocate means, and nobody here has said the screens were not in view.
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Chaosfire Oct 8, 12
quote BluAnimal
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Reginald, after Team Solomid's 0-2 loss to team Azubu Frost, announced he was retiring from competitive League of Legends.

He was planning on retiring for a while, and said it was a sure thing if they didn't perform well in the finals. He's planning on going to school.
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Lorx Oct 8, 12
SK Ocelote posted a rather long message on reddit with his opinions about the recent happenings. It's a bit long, but here's the part that really struck me:

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Grand Finals are soon, And I can put my hand on fire knowing that everything will run smooth. Be sure Riot won't commite twice the same mistake, ever.

Im not gonna be playing there, as u know already, as we got owned in groupphase by better teams. But Ill be watching the finals LIVE, as the respect for this sport and my opponents keep me here. So no, Im not gonna take the early flight and Im gonna make sure I enjoy one of the best shows in eSports, ever.

See you there. ocelote.

TL;DR: lend a hand, Riot is doing good. Dont be so hard on them and help this to grow with positive feedback. Work together to make this grow. See u in the finals.
Really the entire post is great, and covers a couple things related to the internet problems, cheating accusations, etc. Anybody emotionally invested in the tournament thus far, should really read that. Props to him for that post, really good stuff.
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Inuyasha19 Oct 9, 12
I think this was the most objective account on all of the drama that I've read today. Which, I think, is impressive considering the rest of the community foaming at the mouth, ready to tear everything apart.

I think it's a good learning experience for Riot and I think that regardless, competitive players will still strive to be more as long as Riot continues hosting tournaments. Good for eSports!
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