Neoseeker : News : Rumored Xbox Durango development kit sells for $20,100 on eBay
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Tommy Vercetti Aug 13, 12
How does one use such a kit? Do you actally make the games on there or just test them?
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BlackLabel Aug 13, 12
quote TommyVercetti101
How does one use such a kit? Do you actally make the games on there or just test them?
It's typically for testing how the code runs in a closer to final console spec environment. Essentially these games can be made on any PC with the right software, but the dev kit is there to give developers an idea if what they are creating will run on the finalized console. If what you make doesn't run smoothly on the pre-release dev kit then you need to revise your plans and make cutbacks.
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Krystal Dark Aug 13, 12
All i can say is OVER 9000!!!
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Shadow of Death Aug 13, 12
I think they also have developer shortcuts that consoles don't have. IE: Debug modes for error checking.
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Bean007 Aug 13, 12
It's funny I tried to look it up and couldn't find it.
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Shadow of Death Aug 13, 12
quote Bean007
It's funny I tried to look it up and couldn't find it.
Well, the source article has a link to it. It's HERE.
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lKasHl Aug 14, 12
Well everything suggests that Durango is real, theres no indication on whether this is the actual unit though, the most we can say is if it isn't, there has been gross misrepresentation on the sellers part and he holds himself legally liable (implying that to avoid risk this might be a legitimate kit). Then again, hes probably violated a large amount of NDA's already suggesting he might be legally immune for some reason... hmmm suspicious.

Either way, hopefully Microsoft didn't just bid on this supposedly rogue unit and pick it up, would be interesting to get a look at the internals/some verification on whether its actually real or not from a trustworthy source.

*Another thing, wouldn't you expect Sony to have expressed interest in buying it if it were legitimate, boosting the price far higher than this? Unless they already have inside knowledge of Durango's components... so many theories...
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BlackLabel Aug 14, 12
I am sure Sony already knows what is inside the Durango dev kit. I mean while they are under an NDA I am sure Insomniac Games have told them, given they are now a multi-platform dev and more than likely have a few of these floating around the place.

Though there were also rumors when this guy first leaked it that the thing was running 12Gb RAM an Nvidia GPU and an Intel CPU of some description, this was also apparently backed up by an unknown source at IGN (possibly another developer). There are many ways Sony could find out what is in that case without buying it I'm sure.
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Shadow of Death Aug 14, 12
BlackLabel - I could buy the DevKit having those specs, but obviously the new Xbox won't have 12GB of ram. Would be a big waste and consoles tend to have substandard amounts of ram, compared to contemporary gaming PCs. For example, I have a pretty decent rig and only bother with 6GB of ram (albeit of the 1600MHz variety).

The devkit would need more I guess, but I'm think that if it really does have 12GB, the kit is probably for more than just testing/debugging games. It probably has some programs on it for actually producing and rendering games. Can't really explain it having 12GB of ram otherwise.

On the other hand, if those CPU and GPU brand rumors are true, then it stands to reason the next X-box will have a CPU and GPU by the same companies.
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BlackLabel Aug 14, 12
Yeah I think at best the final console will have either 4 or 6Gb RAM which is quite possibly overkill for a console, but RAM is cheap and I think developers would rather the console have too much than too little.

From what I read the reason Microsoft changed from Nvidia to ATi from Xbox to Xbox 360 was because Nvidia wanted too much money, I assume if Microsoft have gone back to Nvidia it's because the dispute has been cleared, or Sony have opted for an all AMD system next gen and Nvidia feel they need to be in a console of some form so PC ports aren't completely AMD optimized.

Though as we know it's all rumor and speculation as to what hardware and in what form it will take in the next gen hardware.
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Stilbon Aug 15, 12
I wouldn't be at all surprised if DaE copied the software off an original dev kit from MS and then took the hardware specs and built a system as close as possible to it.

To me it would seem the only way to keep him or her out of legal trouble if MS ever learns who DaE is.
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BlackLabel Aug 16, 12
quote Stilbon
I wouldn't be at all surprised if DaE copied the software off an original dev kit from MS and then took the hardware specs and built a system as close as possible to it.

To me it would seem the only way to keep him or her out of legal trouble if MS ever learns who DaE is.
I think Microsoft know who he is. Microsoft are in no hurry though as the dev kit isn't final hardware so no matter who buys it will learn a bare minimum. Though at the same time they are probably letting the guy think he's got away with it, a month from now is when he'll get the letter notifying him of an impending lawsuit, that is when his life falls apart.
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Spike Razzor Aug 16, 12
It was probably an empty shell with a PS3 inside ಠ_ಠ...
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