Neoseeker : News : The Ville and The Sims Social similarities lead to EA suing Zynga for copyright infringement
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annihilate Aug 3, 12
another nail in coffin
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Miller Aug 3, 12
I want EA to win. I don't like EA at all but Zynga are scum.

I'm sure we all remember this http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dear-zynga.jpeg
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hiigaran Aug 3, 12
i dont care who wins, but god dammit, large companies can be so bloody petty. so there are some similarities, big *bleep*ing whoop. there are always going to be similarities between games of any kind. you dont see every single company going in to an all out bitchslapping orgy over who should have the rights to a certain game function. hell, why doesnt battlefield get any crap for having similarities to COD with their health system?

its sad. its pathetic. its childish. none of these developers have my respect, nor do they deserve the respect of others.
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VeGiTAX2 Aug 3, 12
hiigaran this doesn't exactly cover all the bases, the legal document is a pretty huge dish of information that goes much deeper including this.

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"The skin tones in both games have a corresponding RGB (red-green-blue) value, which is represented visually and numerically. RGB values range from 0 to 255, resulting in more than 16 million different color combinations. As demonstrated in the chart below, The Ville uses the same precise RGB values for its skin tones as does The Sims Social. There is an infinitesimally small chance that the use of the same RGB values for skin tone in The Ville as The Sims Social is mere coincidence."


It's not so simple as to go "looks like ours, lets sue em" apparently Zynga made the copy paste situation of social gaming go to entirely new levels. Document covers most of that.
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hiigaran Aug 3, 12
the skin tones look lighter in the bottom row of images at the top of the page. admittedly, i wasnt aware of how much similarity there is, but that does raise the question of how similar must two things be before theres an issue with the two developers.
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VeGiTAX2 Aug 3, 12
It goes deeper like I said, copying gestures and movement actions for individual characters and models. At the depth they went there's a hard position to argue out of and claim it's all just coincidence they made exact RGB matches, the same mocap and so on.

In the social media realm and especially overseas in Korean / Japan and China you see this a lot more often between new developers and basically no one has the money to fight it in court and sustain their business. For EA they have money and time and a strong case on their hands as well. From the initial brief it honestly looks like Zynga got caught with their hand in the jar and now they're screwed.

Like I said before, it goes deeper than cheap aesthetics otherwise they wouldn't bother waging the case.
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Grimdark Aug 3, 12
quote hiigaran
i dont care who wins, but god dammit, large companies can be so bloody petty. so there are some similarities, big *bleep*ing whoop. there are always going to be similarities between games of any kind. you dont see every single company going in to an all out bitchslapping orgy over who should have the rights to a certain game function. hell, why doesnt battlefield get any crap for having similarities to COD with their health system?

its sad. its pathetic. its childish. none of these developers have my respect, nor do they deserve the respect of others.

Stealing someone else's work is a very serious crime. What Vegita said covers it pretty well, and if he hadn't posted, I wouldn't have even been aware of the deeper and obvious elements stolen.
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hiigaran Aug 3, 12
VeGiTAX2 - like i said, i was not aware of the depth of similarity. the article does not mention it (maybe in the link, but i didnt visit it).
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VeGiTAX2 Aug 3, 12
Yeah the deeper mentions would help, possibly something bluexy could add in to help anyone confused or not getting the gist of how far the copy claim went.
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tekmosis Aug 3, 12
Zynga is a company known for 'stealing' (copying) games. Miller pointed out a great example of that. It just seems that now Zynga has copied a game from the wrong developer and now they're going to be paying for it. I'm glad that they've finally been called out legally on it. Karma's a bitch.
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Grimdark Aug 3, 12
quote tekmosis
Zynga is a company known for 'stealing' (copying) games. Miller pointed out a great example of that. It just seems that now Zynga has copied a game from the wrong developer and now they're going to be paying for it. I'm glad that they've finally been called out legally on it. Karma's a bitch.
A few other developers apparently have sued them in the past, for the same reasons but aside from a mention in the complaint, it doesn't state the outcome.

Reading the complaint now though, EA is just metaphorically curbstomping Zynga with all this evidence.
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tekmosis Aug 3, 12
They do need a good stomping. I hope this teaches them to be creative and come up with their own ideas rather than copying others.
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Grimdark Aug 3, 12
I don't even know if Zynga releases original content.

Additionally, what Vegita or the article didn't cover but is probably a major example of Zynga in all of this, is that Zynga actually hired three key EA employees relating to the game.
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Batman Aug 3, 12
Should sue EA for trying to milk their series after seeing Activision, aswell.
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