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Zombie_Barioth Jul 29, 12
Inb4 they're too busy copying COD.
They say mimicry is the sincerest form of flattery so I can see why they're curious about this.

They're right building hype and interest without revealing too much is a problem, especially in an industry like this where it takes years to release a product. Reveal too little and fans loose interest or don't get the point and it falls off the radar, reveal too much and risk getting ripped off by the competition or they'll beef up their own product in response.
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THM Jul 29, 12
Well..Why is he astonishing about "stealing" from one another in the gaming business?

It's obvious in gaming industry nowadays (e.g.DLCs).

Well, the proper answer is that capitalism is based/planned upon stealing in an institutionalised manner so that some scapegoats like Pitchford can always have something to blame without realising the flaws of the system in which they have been programmed to live/operate...
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Foquinha Jul 29, 12
I take it Pitchford has never played Rage...
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redneonfish Jul 29, 12
THM Out of curiousity, and I don't mean to argue with you, but would socialism change any of this? Surely capitalism would only benefit the gaming industry? You're being forced to compete; if you want to survive, then you have to constantly differentiate yourself.
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Marc Jul 29, 12
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On the other hand, it's like, 'Shit, we don't want to tell people our secret because then they're all gonna copy it because it's so good.''
This seems like quite a pompous thing to say, I dont think Borderlands deserved to have an exact clone or copy and pasted game they are thinking of in the first place. Borderlands had a nice formula going but they took all they could from games like fallout, Halo, and Diablo.

TBH I would buy a Borderlands ripoff that had an actual storyline and didn't force 9000 pounds of DLC on you. Ah well, lets see what they do with the second one,
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Petzrule Jul 29, 12
Quick, someone rip off Borderlands!
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ssjgoten Jul 29, 12
That's funny considering Borderlands is pretty much an A-RPG, transformed into a FPS view.
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InitiallySane Jul 29, 12
Did no one play dead island? It borrows heavily from borderlands as well.
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OkamiAlucard Jul 29, 12
Dead island is the only clone so far that i know of.
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kin333x Jul 29, 12
quote InitiallySane
Did no one play dead island? It borrows heavily from borderlands as well.
BORROWS not CLONES. Also its like saying Fallout 3 was a clone of Oblivion oh wait...
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Shadow of Death Jul 29, 12
THM - He is astonished that nobody has stolen (or more accurately, cloned) the game.

Some games have similar elements. Dead Island has a bit in common, then there is RAGE. But there isn't really a game that similar to Borderlands.

EDIT: I said "Gun" instead of "Game"....
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ShadowJ Jul 29, 12
There's two different kind of steals in the gaming industry, the first is the one that we all have known from the early 90's...which is where an idea from a game interests a rival, they take that idea but they change it enough to make it their own (In this case, Dead Island)

The other kind stealing is what Chinese companies do...which is to rip-off every single asset and re-brand it as their own. For example Runic Games had an implication recently with a company that stole Torchlight assets, the same company then tried to defend their game with "Well Runic Games stole from Fate"...which evidently someone was working on before heading to Runic Games.

Borderlands is a great game and looking forward to number 2 but just because no one has "Stolen" the game in any sense that someone puts into the term of stealing...doesn't make it a bad thing..though wouldn't be surprised if there is a knock-off Borderlands game in China at the moment
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THM Jul 29, 12
quote redneonfish
THM Out of curiousity, and I don't mean to argue with you, but would socialism change any of this? Surely capitalism would only benefit the gaming industry? You're being forced to compete; if you want to survive, then you have to constantly differentiate yourself.

I agree with Mystic Aurora's comment!!

There is a lack of 'synergy' in gaming industry as well as in capitalism overall; what we're seeing is greedy mergers/acquisitions for the sake of 'profit' only; 'profit' comes first regardless of whatever happens to the (gaming) community or other businesses!

Competition doesn't surely lead to a lower price! Look at big banks in Australia, All are greedy; don't give a damn about the community or government either...In fact, government is subservient to capitalist interests rather than promoting public interest...

All in all, capitalism based upon greedy competition won't survive long and collapse on its own motto of 'competition' for endless profit!

I'd suggest a 'social market economy' for gaming industry; I don't like greedy capitalist system of the U.S., UK, Aus, and Canada! Social market economy with higher government power/intervention, helping to those who are weak; fighting against greedy CEOs and thier interest to expand into national interest; that'll help to promote gaming industry with higher synergy and cooperation rather than filling the minds of gamers with corrupt consumerism!

No economic system is perfect! For the promotion of national economy and tackling increasing unemployment rates in Europe, I'd prefer Germany's social market economy; it is deemed to be better than a greedy capitalism without limit/laws!!! Stupid Wall Street!!!
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ashantiqua Jul 29, 12
if capitalism is all about copying, china's flavor of socialism could definitely teach it a thing or two... china copies/steals like its nobodys business.

i aint even mad though... just want more good games, and borerlands 2 is looking mighty good.
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