Neoseeker : News : Ouya console will be small, "around the size of a Rubik's cube"
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bionicle1995 Jul 23, 12
wow, thats.. impressive. I hope this turns out great as it hopefully could give both the portable and home console markets a run for their money. mainly just because its one for both.
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Wakaman Jul 23, 12
Portable, maybe, home console, lol not a chance.
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BlackLabel Jul 23, 12
To be honest given it's something that will be going under my TV, I want it a bit bigger than that.. Sure a Rubik's cube sized system is impressive but when I put it next to my Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 it's going to look stupid, make it look more substantial than it is.
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Crafter Jul 23, 12
BlackLabel, If it's going to be that small (and you were so inclined), you could probably take off the case and mount the guts inside your xbox.
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Shadow of Death Jul 23, 12
It's that small (and cheap) because the hardware isn't especially good. It really shouldn't be compared to the PS3 or 360. It's likely even weaker than the Wii for that matter (well, maybe not. The Wii can only handle 480p, but it does handle full 3D games which I doubt this device will be able to do, at least not very well).

How good it is still remains to be seen. I'm hoping it does a good job with what it has.
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Northern49 Jul 23, 12
Don't underestimate the power of mobile / portable devices. You have to keep in mind that there are currently phones and tablets that are more powerful than the xbox and ps3. Don't make assumptions based on how much self space it consumes. It probably won't be as powerful as the next generation of console, but it will not necessarily be weaker than the wii. The iphone is stronger than the wii. The ouya can certainly be stronger than the wii.
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BlackLabel Jul 23, 12
quote Shadow of Death
It's that small (and cheap) because the hardware isn't especially good. It really shouldn't be compared to the PS3 or 360. It's likely even weaker than the Wii for that matter (well, maybe not. The Wii can only handle 480p, but it does handle full 3D games which I doubt this device will be able to do, at least not very well).

How good it is still remains to be seen. I'm hoping it does a good job with what it has.
OUYA even though the specs aren't finalised is running with a Tegra 3 GPU.. Tegra 3 is capable of games like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmvJxbHWZSU

Now yes granted it's not up there with games like Uncharted, but it does show that OUYA will pack enough of a punch to have some pretty decent games for it. I mean this thing is coming out next year so it could even pack a Tegra 4 which is meant to be a good 20-30x more powerful. Yes I am in the camp not expecting much from OUYA, I mean to me it'll be used mainly for emulation as I want all my retro consoles in one place, but this thing has a fair bit of power for it's own games which is great given the price.
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Shadow of Death Jul 23, 12
BlackLabel - Well, I wasn't expecting something that good running on a Tegra chip through Android (it did say in the description that the game was running on an Android platform).

I heard that Android isn't very well built for running games, but it seems it does alright.

How good of a Tegra chip they'll be using with the Ouya compared to the one used for that demo remains to be seen though.
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monkey_ninjas316 Jul 23, 12
Seriously, who is developing the games for this system? Nobody has really signed on yet other than the one game mentioned above. And frankly, I don't blame them. A system that claims to be 100% open and "entirely hackable" sounds like a nightmare.

First, not every game is going to work well on a Free to Play structure. If anyone has ever played just a few games like this, you know these games can quickly turn into Pay to Win. And if the system is entirely hackable, whats stopping people from ripping these games and releasing the full version over the internet? Of course this won't work for all games, but it's something developers would need to worry about before developing the game.

They say they will setup a marketplace like XBL or PSN, but I just don't see it taking off. A lot of people want this for the possibility of emulating older gaming hardware, but how will they get it? I'm 99% sure they can't legally sell that, and if there is an option to add apps straight from your PC, (via USB I'd guess) then you will have extensive piracy issues letting people run their own code. If the hardware is as open as they claim, this "console" will fall fast. If it's not, then they basically lied to all of their supporters.
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Shadow of Death Jul 23, 12
monkey_ninjas316 - Well, PC gaming isn't much different. It's relatively easy I think, to mod games and such if you know what you're doing. Some games even encourage it.

About the developers aligned with this project, aside from that big one there are a number of smaller ones I assume (they've demo some stuff anyway).

As to the F2P stuff, it's pretty liberal with the term. Demos, for example, apply. So long as there is at least SOMETHING free associated with playing the game itself.

The 'honor system' works well enough with the indie market. Look at the Humble Bundles. Sure, the average prices could be better but loads of people are paying more than they need to in order to get everything. The sort of people who abuse it are the sort of people who would just steal it outright most likely, or not even purchase it in the first place.

That said, I have my doubts when it comes to this console taking off TBH.
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Plg291 Jul 24, 12
Portability will be it greatest feature but just the fact that its so small, will actually discourage me from taking it somewhere with a fear of losing it.
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th'eejit Jul 24, 12
Pig291, you know what's going to happen: console: $99. Case $99.
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Gligar Jul 24, 12
Since the console itself is easily hackable, i might get me one of these.
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Nagare Jul 24, 12
monkey_ninjas316, they can get that because it is running a modified version of Android which lets you install the APKs( think exe or install file) of programs without a problem so you can get whatever emulators you want and run them.

Of course piracy will be a problem for this system, just like the rest of Android which prompts devs to come up with alternative ways to profit. Recently Dead Trigger went F2P because of the extremely high piracy rate on Android.
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