Neoseeker : News : BioWare responds to outrage over Mass Effect 3 'From Ashes' DLC
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Lorx Feb 23, 12
NOBODY SAY WHAT'S IN THE SPOILER, IT'S A SPOILER

Required video link, yes, it's that TotalBiscuit video basically everybody's seen.

Personally am not mad that it's being released day 1. I'm annoyed about what's in it, as a day 1 pack. That's hyper important lore-centric stuff in there. Wasn't really planning on buying ME3 anyway, because of lol-origin, but this just kind of seals the deal :/
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Royal Bloody Feb 23, 12
So it seems EA/Bioware pulls a move like this which they've done in the past plenty of times. And now suddenly out of the blue, someone finally brings attention too a long foreseen problem that now I'm suppose to feel disgusted and shock over now?

The only people you need to get mad at, are the gamers that allow this to continue. I usually buy EA games at bargain bin prices anyways, so this no problem for me, but I understand the outrage though.
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mneidig Feb 23, 12
It's a shame that a player's loyalty can be so easily swayed and that they get upset that a business acts like a business.

I've been waiting for Mass Effect 3 since I finished the second one. Origin is not going to stop me, nor should it stop anyone from playing this game.

Personally, this DLC makes me all the more excited, and frankly, I suspect those complaining aren't getting the CE.
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BlackLabel Feb 23, 12
quote Royal Bloody
So it seems EA/Bioware pulls a move like this which they've done in the past plenty of times. And now suddenly out of the blue, someone finally brings attention too a long foreseen problem that now I'm suppose to feel disgusted and shock over now?

The only people you need to get mad at, are the gamers that allow this to continue. I usually buy EA games at bargain bin prices anyways, so this no problem for me, but I understand the outrage though.
It's more in the past that other than Shale being one of the better characters in Dragon Age. The difference was he wasn't necessary in any way to the plot and he was available to everyone that bought the standard edition or collectors edition new.

In Mass Effect 3 it's different. This is a character that going by what it is, is a massive part of the lore and it's necessary content yet you have to pay £10 on top of the initial brand new price to get it or buy the even more pricey collectors edition.

mneidig, So you're saying you're happy with this? You're happy paying £40 ($60) for the game new and then having to pay £10 ($10) more for a piece of necessary content? If everyone thinks like you the gaming industry is *bleep*ed.. Just wait until Activision see's how well this worked, don't put it past them to sell half a game for £40 and ask for a £10-20 day one DLC to unlock the rest, that is where this practice is going to get us if people accept it like idiots.
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Lorx Feb 23, 12
Royal Bloody, I don't think anybody's seen a move this big from EA, at least not in any major title.

mneidig, Watch the TotalBiscuit video. I swear everybody and their dog hands this link out like candy, same as they did his video on SOPA, but it's food good reason. The guy is just good at making solid points.
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BlackLabel Feb 23, 12
quote Lorx
Royal Bloody, I don't think anybody's seen a move this big from EA, at least not in any major title.
BioWare do it a lot but in the past it's been merely to combat used sales and has been free. This time they have gone a lot further and to be honest I think it's BioWare's decision and not EA. Every other EA game that isn't made by BioWare has the typical pre-order content and maybe something to combat used sales, but only in BioWare games are characters and missions left out either to stop used sales or in this case monetise content we should get on disc. EA get a ton of flak sure but something tells me this was BioWare's decision.
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Crafter Feb 23, 12
Lorx: Being a higher profile launch, I wouldn't be surprised if some fine fellows make a hack to play without Origin, like they did with BF3.
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BlackLabel Feb 23, 12
quote Jorden
when the hell does mass effect 3 come out
In 2 weeks..
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BlackScythe Feb 23, 12
I don't believe them. They are forced to do this by EA. No need to add lying to the list.
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Lorx Feb 23, 12
Keep in mind, nowhere did they say that it wasn't planned to release this as day 1 content. All they said was a separate team worked on it, once ME3 was in it's final stages and more or less out of development. Wouldn't really think anything in there is a lie.

quote Crafter
Lorx: Being a higher profile launch, I wouldn't be surprised if some fine fellows make a hack to play without Origin, like they did with BF3.
Thing is, when players have to do that, is EA really doing their job? Buying a game is showing your support for what it is and what it stands for. I love what ME3 is, the series is great, but what it stands for with Origin and DLC, no thanks, I'll pass.

BlackLabel that's a pretty interesting theory, that it's Bioware's decision. Personally I thought that ME2's release DLC was brilliant, as you said it was made to purposefully attack used game sales, which I can understand. Developers get basically nothing from those. I was surprised when I head about the ME3 DLC, specifically because of just how much I appreciated ME2's DLC and how it was released.
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BlackLabel Feb 23, 12
quote BlackScythe
I don't believe them. They are forced to do this by EA. No need to add lying to the list.
No they aren't.. Their first EA release Mass Effect 2 was a typical EA release with fair pre-order content and a fair anti-used game policy. Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2 then started taking characters out of the game to combat used games and now we are at this point.. EA does not do this for any other game and this only seems to happen only with BioWare titles. BioWare have said in the past they have full control over this IP.. Who do we lay blame with as sure EA can be a bit dodgy at times, but EA's past suggests this wasn't their doing.
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shaunybaby Feb 23, 12
Yeah I love the series, I love Biowares games on the whole, but I am not supporting them if they are going to ass f*ck use with launch DLC that isn't included for early adapobters is straight out profiteering. So I say F*ck you Bioware because the only money they will be getting from me is when I can buy an ultimate edition second hand.
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nnnddd101010 Feb 23, 12
I don't *bleep*ing care if it was made "after the core game".
It was made before release, so it should be included in the game.
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