Neoseeker : News : Wikipedia leaves Go Daddy following SOPA support
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BlackLabel Dec 29, 11
quote Gligar
Is this currently affecting US citizens only? Will it come to other countries such as UK, Germany, Australia etc?
It affects the rest of the world as 90% of websites are hosted and based in America. If this bill passes and they take YouTube down it is down for everyone in the World. This bill while meant to curb piracy in America will affect everyone if it passes.
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Xenctuary Dec 29, 11
quote Vagabond
quote Xenctuary
It seems as though GoDaddy loses and gains tens of thousands of domains every week. This isn't anything unusual for them. Plus there's no proof that these 70,000 domain transfers were a direct result of opposition to SOPA.

This news article is a bit sensationalistic.
If all the domains leaving was the standard, then Go Daddy wouldn't have switched their stance on the bill, especially considering they had a hand it at least a small portion of what is in it. Also, the Co-founder of Wikipedia posted on Twitter that their SOPA support is exactly why they left Go Daddy.
They changed their stance to save face after this debacle. I'm sure they still support it.

According to the numbers from DailyChanges, GoDaddy transfers out ~70k domains every week. For example, if you go back to the week of December 5, GoDaddy transferred out 115,389 domains. This was a fortnight before the whole grassroots campaign began.

Other than Wikipedia and a handful of other organisations, it's impossible to say that this week's transfers were due to SOPA opposition.
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Liege Dec 29, 11
quote alias58
SOPA will reinforce copyright protection and encourage fine arts.
According to whom? The bill's proponents? Our congressman have already admitted and demonstrated that they have no idea how the internet works (an understatement to be honest, they have no clue how or why anything technological works) and the only ones who will be supported by this bill are those lining their pockets.

Your statement sounds like a line straight from congressman or a lobbyist. Like you just regurgitated whatever they fed you. Perhaps you should do the same as they should: consult somebody who actually knows something and has industry experience.
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DarkBlade725 Dec 29, 11
"Stop Online Piracy Act" Is it suppose to say Piracy or Privacy
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Vagabond Dec 29, 11
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Lorx Dec 29, 11
Stop Online Progress Act tbh.
"Oh wow look at all of these technological and intullectual innovations that are happening right in front of us on the internet! Lets stop all of them!"

Vagabond Judging from the emoticon he used I'm thinking he was making a joke.
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Vagabond Dec 29, 11
quote Lorx
Stop Online Progress Act tbh.
"Oh wow look at all of these technological and intullectual innovations that are happening right in front of us on the internet! Lets stop all of them!"

Vagabond Judging from the emoticon he used I'm thinking he was making a joke.
lol, even with emoticons I still can't get it when someone is being sarcastic.
steeleword | Dec 29, 11
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Lorx Dec 29, 11
quote steeleword
The top search engine makes $40B a year, double what the US music and movie industries make a year, combined. Just one top ISP, makes $120B a year, six times the revenue of the movie and music business. ISP's spend far more on lobbying than the music and movie industries. ISPs, search engines and ad networks are making billions delivering copyrighted content to US citizens without compensating the owners of that content. Pre-Napster, music was a $44B a year global business, now it is $18B a year. Why is blocking a for-profit site in Montenegro that has links to every movie, every song, every video game and almost every piece of software ever made available for free "censorship?" That is what governments are for, to stop theft. If it was your stolen property being given a way for free, you would want it stopped. It is time for the Internet to grow up. Civilizations worth surviving respect personal property rights.
The people backing this bill know full well it will not stop piracy at all. What this bill will do, is close every major legal streaming service of any kind. If you like Youtube, you do not like this bill.
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stevethewebguy2 Dec 30, 11
The Drupal community (in LA at least) held a "Lets Leave GoDaddy" Day:
http://groups.drupal.org/node/199063

Even if you love SOPA, you should probably still switch your domains away from GoDaddy (their shared hosting is crap too, honestly, especially for running Drupal).
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VeGiTAX2 Dec 30, 11
quote steeleword
The top search engine makes $40B a year, double what the US music and movie industries make a year, combined.
Why not mention that your movie and music industries also pay to use that search engine for their internal services and advertising streams across the internet? There's a reason they're also the number one advertising giant on the net as well but you could always selectively ignore that and Android and everything else they do. Btw why not just say Google instead of pretending you're some magic informant? For the record you're failing to include operating costs and etc and the only recent quote about that number specifically came from them saying they have 40B bankrolled.

Also how is it the problem of a technology company that these dinosaurs haven't evolved with the times? Instead of embracing digital culture they fight it at every turn even at something so simple as DVD kiosk time restrictions. They also manipulate their own books to fake losses on their products. They had a name for this a long time ago and it was called cooking the books, back then it was punished but now it's overlooked.

quote steeleword
Just one top ISP, makes $120B a year, six times the revenue of the movie and music business.
One top ISP? The only company I could find worth, not even making 120B a year was AOL back in the early 2000's at the point of the Time Warner merger at which point the whole thing took a flaming nose dive. Again if you're going to make sensationalist claims try to back it up.

quote steeleword
ISP's spend far more on lobbying than the music and movie industries. ISPs, search engines and ad networks are making billions delivering copyrighted content to US citizens without compensating the owners of that content.
2011 stats From Open Secrets:
- TV/Movies/Music $91,767,558
- Computers/Internet $91,537,448

So while piling hardware companies who lobby against each other annually (Apple vs Android, AMD vs Intel) in with ISP's you still fall short of coming out with them spending more. I'm really wondering where your magical unicorn sources are at.


quote steeleword
Pre-Napster, music was a $44B a year global business, now it is $18B a year.
Of course that has nothing to do with a change in the quality of the music and the industry conceding to per-track sales which will naturally hurt sales. If you forced people to buy single cd's at $6.99 for 2-4 tracks and now they can pick up just that one song for $0.99 - 1.29 then yes you're going to always lose out on the filler crap that was pilled in.

I have a collection of CD's eating up space in my garage and now I use amazon for all my purchasing because it's just easier to get what I want when I want anywhere I'm at. Hear a song, look it up, use 1-click shopping on my phone and I have the song I want and I don't need 12 other tracks I couldn't give a care about wasting my storage space.

quote steeleword
Why is blocking a for-profit site in Montenegro that has links to every movie, every song, every video game and almost every piece of software ever made available for free "censorship?"
Because the bill itself is directed as a blanket not as a precision strike against piracy. It's meant to cover losses due to "youtubes" and other social sites that use copyrighted stills (any meme on the net) or scenes like Downfall with the infamous Hitler scene that still gets subtitled into new social events. Fair-use gets trampled in favor of protecting nothing at all. The meme's and clips do nothing to damage the movie, the play along videos and other clips do nothing as well. We're moving from creative freedom to actions only being allowed under licensed approval at all times. It's a step back into the dark ages.

Also, because you have stories like this that make the light of day that are bad enough without SOPA being involved. There are better alternatives being worked on that show we don't need to settle on the most extreme thing that came out of the gate. The OPEN Act is one of those at least. You don't eliminate piracy overnight, the US has never successfully ended anything overnight so I have no idea why they think shoving this down everyone's throat will work.

quote steeleword
That is what governments are for, to stop theft.
The role of the government isn't to strip the rights of the people for corporate interests as fast as possible with as little forethought as they can muster. It's also not a personal bodyguard to any industry that trumps the will of the people, in this case the will of people doesn't have $91M backing someone to speak their side of the case.

quote steeleword
If it was your stolen property being given a way for free, you would want it stopped.
Does the MPAA know you just stole their prior slogan they used to spam in every DVD and movie theater? YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR SO WHY WOULD YOU STEAL A MOVIE.

What you fail to comprehend is the difference between someone stealing your property and lobbying that any property that comes into contact with another person is a criminal offense as it's suspicion enough that it might be stolen at that point. The puppet defense fails here.

You address the issue you don't impact every single person in the country because you can't figure out how get from point a to point b. The MPAA and RIAA and other Entertainment bodies still lack the ability to step over and join the rest of the world in how to address digital rights and enforcement. Using blanket policy solves nothing.

quote steeleword
It is time for the Internet to grow up. Civilizations worth surviving respect personal property rights.
Or it's time for you to actually get your facts straight and start thinking for yourself instead of defending people who could give less of a crap about your existence and rights. They'd teabag you in a minute if it gave them $20. Also thanks for killing your own point by confusing intellectual property disputes with personal property rights, I should have just read that and pointed out how much of a failure your entire post was.

btw, you're welcome bro.
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Lorx Dec 30, 11
I love you VeGiTAX2.
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chautemoc Dec 30, 11
Xenctuary Thanks for the criticism. I've reworked the article to focus on the Wikipedia aspect, and left the 70K figure to speculation. This was an oversight on my part (an extremely rare occurrence, I assure you); I'll keep a much closer eye on matters like this going forward. This would've been taken care of sooner but I was on vacation. In the future, please PM or e-mail me.
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Omegastrider Dec 30, 11
No one on the internet should support SOPA.
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rpg Jan 4, 12
Lol vegitax2 just layed the smackdown @.@ I'll pretend that understood half of it though :]
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