Neoseeker : News : Torchlight II too large for Xbox 360, exceeds memory limits
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Sage_Mantis Aug 4, 11
Cut the game in half and put it on two disks, problem solved?
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SUPREM_KITE Aug 4, 11
quote Sage_Mantis
Cut the game in half and put it on two disks, problem solved?
That isn't going to work. If you read the article it says the game exceeds the consoles memory limits, not its storage limits. This means to run the game you need more RAM than what the 360 has, the only way to solve that is make a much less polished version of the game, or make a new version of the 360 with more RAM.
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ButchSmudge Aug 4, 11
I read somewhere that the 360 was getting more RAM soon.
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Sage_Mantis Aug 4, 11
Ha, and people say current consoles are basically the end and we don't need new consoles. This game looks like something for Sega Saturn. Nah, I think we'll be making new consoles for a LONG time.
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VeGiTAX2 Aug 4, 11
quote ButchSmudge
I read somewhere that the 360 was getting more RAM soon.
Not sure where that rumor started, just like the one about the BD-ROM drive it would divide the existing consumer base and development would be stunted as well.

It would be the arcade model holdback all over again, games were always held back by the requirement that they would be fully playable without caching on 512MB of storage. :/ It's a useless move because only a minority of the consumer base would be able to utilize the extra RAM.

quote Sage_Mantis
Ha, and people say current consoles are basically the end and we don't need new consoles. This game looks like something for Sega Saturn. Nah, I think we'll be making new consoles for a LONG time.
Not sure where that came from, all of the companies admit they're exploring new technology to use in next-gen systems. RAM is a large issue in the current generation but it probably always will be with that being an easy corner to cut in a system. RTS and Strategy games use tons of live AI and are always caching into memory, it's a weak point of consoles which is why few make it over.
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Supernova1332 Aug 5, 11
quote Sage_Mantis
Ha, and people say current consoles are basically the end and we don't need new consoles. This game looks like something for Sega Saturn. Nah, I think we'll be making new consoles for a LONG time.
You have no idea what you're talking about do you? You expect to see all the details of a game that scales to over 1080p in a tiny 640x360 pixel jpg image? You have no idea that even older games like half life 2 can use up to 3gb-4gb of ram, well over the measly 512mb you get with an xbox 360. If a downloadable game needs extensive reworking to make it playable on a console how much do you think they cut down on an AAA title to make it work on the 360?
Microsoft already made a press release stating that they would announce the next generation x-box at E3 2012 and ship sometime that year or early 2013. Long time my ass.
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Cousin Jack Aug 5, 11
There are many games that are far superior in graphics and performance to Torchlight II. It doesn't make any sense Runic can't make it work. Perhaps they're programmers just aren't that talented.
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VeGiTAX2 Aug 5, 11
quote Cousin Jack
There are many games that are far superior in graphics and performance to Torchlight II. It doesn't make any sense Runic can't make it work. Perhaps they're programmers just aren't that talented.
You realize we're talking about whatever the memory constraints of XBLA are right? Not the 360 itself. From the sound of the interview, it seems MS has a tier limit for XBLA games and another one for retail 360 games. A bit lame but I guess that's how they keep the ecosystem in check.

The system only has 512MB, it really isn't a ton of memory, if they chop that in half and split that between system and graphic memory there is a problem. Unfortunately there's little information about the development restrictions for making a game for XBLA. Chances are NDA's are to thank for most of that mess.

Probably helps to read the full story instead of just trying to throw some bs out there.

quote Supernova1332
Microsoft already made a press release stating that they would announce the next generation x-box at E3 2012 and ship sometime that year or early 2013. Long time my ass.
Actually it was a claimed Crytek leak that dropped that info, no official word has been put out there yet. On top of that, Crytek made a public statement that the report was BS a few days later.
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Cousin Jack Aug 5, 11
Then perhaps Runic should release Torchlight II for the 360 as a full retail version.
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VeGiTAX2 Aug 5, 11
quote Cousin Jack
Then perhaps Runic should release Torchlight II for the 360 as a full retail version.
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When asked whether he was interested in pursuing a full retail release for consoles rather than sticking to the limiting confines of XBLA, Schaefer replied, "We would absolutely consider that." However, no formal discussions with any prospective publishers have yet been held.
They're already ahead of that but they're still developing the game itself. I'm sure that publishers will start courting them now that they've expressed interest though.
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Sage_Mantis Aug 5, 11
quote Supernova1332
quote Sage_Mantis
Ha, and people say current consoles are basically the end and we don't need new consoles. This game looks like something for Sega Saturn. Nah, I think we'll be making new consoles for a LONG time.
You have no idea what you're talking about do you? You expect to see all the details of a game that scales to over 1080p in a tiny 640x360 pixel jpg image? You have no idea that even older games like half life 2 can use up to 3gb-4gb of ram, well over the measly 512mb you get with an xbox 360. If a downloadable game needs extensive reworking to make it playable on a console how much do you think they cut down on an AAA title to make it work on the 360?
Microsoft already made a press release stating that they would announce the next generation x-box at E3 2012 and ship sometime that year or early 2013. Long time my ass.
You missed the boat. Last sentence proved no point, as I said long time as in a long time of making new consoles.. not long time until the next console. You don't know what you're referring to anyway.
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Supernova1332 Aug 6, 11
quote Sage_Mantis
quote Supernova1332
quote Sage_Mantis
Ha, and people say current consoles are basically the end and we don't need new consoles. This game looks like something for Sega Saturn. Nah, I think we'll be making new consoles for a LONG time.
You have no idea what you're talking about do you? You expect to see all the details of a game that scales to over 1080p in a tiny 640x360 pixel jpg image? You have no idea that even older games like half life 2 can use up to 3gb-4gb of ram, well over the measly 512mb you get with an xbox 360. If a downloadable game needs extensive reworking to make it playable on a console how much do you think they cut down on an AAA title to make it work on the 360?
Microsoft already made a press release stating that they would announce the next generation x-box at E3 2012 and ship sometime that year or early 2013. Long time my ass.
You missed the boat. Last sentence proved no point, as I said long time as in a long time of making new consoles.. not long time until the next console. You don't know what you're referring to anyway.
Yeah, my bad on the last one. I read many posts with bad english on here so I sometimes think people mean something different than what is actually typed. I thought that since that statement was ridiculously obvious you missed a word or something.

And vegitax2
Read it was a MS PR somewhere but okay, probably wrong info. John Carmack also said to expect it at the e3 in 2012 and availability in 2013.
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