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tekmosis Mar 15, 11
I don't think they'd cut out XP from the minimum requirements list. Even EA has listed Crysis 2 as "Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7, with latest Service Pack".
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Lorx Mar 15, 11
Thanks for writing this up Chaut, was really worried my rig would need tweaking.
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VeGiTAX2 Mar 15, 11
quote tekmosis
I don't think they'd cut out XP from the minimum requirements list. Even EA has listed Crysis 2 as "Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7, with latest Service Pack".
Games are finally moving on, it's not unheard of to see it dumped though.

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Frostbite 2 is primarily developed for DX11. XP & DX9 is _not_ supported, 64-bit OS is recommended. Lots of time to upgrade if you haven't!
Pretty sure that DICE wouldn't be making statements like that from their developer team if they weren't true.
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chautemoc Mar 15, 11
[link name=tekmosis]http://www.neoseeker.com/members/tekmosis/" class="mention[/link] But they did? I'm not sure where the confusion is. Crytek choosing to support XP doesn't mean everyone has to -- there are many factors involved.

XP has to die eventually, and it's been slowly doing so since last year -- Just Cause 2 and Shattered Horizon also dropped DX9/XP support then, and possibly others since.

[link name=Lorx]http://www.neoseeker.com/members/Lorx/" class="mention[/link] Glad it helps.
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XxXHollycXxX Mar 15, 11
Hope a Phenom II X4 955 3.2Ghz, 4Gb(2x2Gb)DDR3 1600Mhz of memory and a HD 5770 will do the job to play at least with medium settings in DX11
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Shadow of Death Mar 15, 11
Yeah, I was going to say (to tekmosis) that JC2 is a DX10 (or higher) only game, so it's not unheard of.

I hope this game supports SLI/Crossfire. I don't have a 580, but I DO have 2 570's. Think I'll be able to max it out fully with that? It's just 1.3GB of video ram (well, 2.6GB technically, but correct me if I'm wrong, but RAM isn't shared in SLI right?), would that be enough y'think?

I doubt a 6 core will be the recommended, but rather a quad core like they've been testing on.

Aside from being a bit below the 580 GPU, I'm sitting pretty with the rest of the specs (3.06Ghz core i7 quad core, 6GB of 1600MHz ram in dual channel, all running on Win7 x64).

BTW: What about 3D Vision stuff? The game supports it I assume? I wonder how big a hit it'll take out on GPU performance (typically I think it's something like 50% more performance smashing?)...
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chautemoc Mar 15, 11
quote XxXHollycXxX
Hope a Phenom II X4 955 3.2Ghz, 4Gb(2x2Gb)DDR3 1600Mhz of memory and a HD 5770 will do the job to play at least with medium settings in DX11
Medium sounds about right, yep.

quote Shadow of Death
I hope this game supports SLI/Crossfire. I don't have a 580, but I DO have 2 570's. Think I'll be able to max it out fully with that? It's just 1.3GB of video ram (well, 2.6GB technically, but correct me if I'm wrong, but RAM isn't shared in SLI right?), would that be enough y'think?

I doubt a 6 core will be the recommended, but rather a quad core like they've been testing on.

Aside from being a bit below the 580 GPU, I'm sitting pretty with the rest of the specs (3.06Ghz core i7 quad core, 6GB of 1600MHz ram in dual channel, all running on Win7 x64).

BTW: What about 3D Vision stuff? The game supports it I assume? I wonder how big a hit it'll take out on GPU performance (typically I think it's something like 50% more performance smashing?)...
A 570 alone should be nearly enough to max it, so two would be plenty.

I've heard rumors it'll be optimized for six cores. Haven't been able to place a source on that yet. Performance testing is different from showing it off to the public, so for all we know that could be the low end and they're just trying to see what the minimum is (or more likely mid-range).

Thanks for reminding me about 3D stuff; it is supported. I've just added in some info, and also good news about SLI. You're set.
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Shadow of Death Mar 15, 11
@@chautemoc - Will I be set if I played it in 3D though? I hope so.

Well, I doubt their minimums would be worse than a mid-range dual core (2.2GHz or so?). Recommended specs are generally for mid or mid to lower tier high. Usually even for brand new games the recommended specs are generation old hardware. So they might recommend a 470 or 480 (or about a 5850/5870 for ATI).

I can see them listed quad cores for recommended, to be sure. Recommending a hexa-core CPU seems a rather out-there idea, if nothing else for the fact that it would discourage some people because of it's ultra high end nature. Even quad core recommendations aren't that common (I don't recall seeing any that do. Crysis 2's recommended is a dual core (their 'optimum requirements' might be, but correct me if I'm wrong, but core i5 comes in dual core flavors right? Optimum is recommended as being a 3.1GHz core i5, and I don't think I've seen a 3.1GHz quad core i5 CPU?). Heck, a lot of modern games aren't even optimized for quad cores as it is, right? Crysis 2 has it, I think, but that's the only one I know of offhand (I'm sure there are more though).

This game may be pushing for new hardware, but the devs and publishers are well aware of 'realistic expectations' as far as consumer's hardware goes XD
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chautemoc Mar 15, 11
Shadow of Death True. I've added a note at the bottom for clarity.

Last I checked only the minimum requirements have been posted for Crysis 2 and anything else was a rumor -- the game doesn't even have DX11 support yet (it's being patched in post-release, apparently). I've seen many titles that recommend a quadcore. Could research and come up with a list if you need, but off the top of my head, I can think of Shattered Horizon, Metro 2033, and Arma II. Just Cause 2 recommends a tricore. The direction things seem to be heading in is multicore optimized vs. raw speed, so we'll see plenty more, especially after BF3 hits.

Yep, it seems like a good balance. I'm quite happy with it.
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Shadow of Death Mar 15, 11
Never mind what I said, I didn't look closely at The Site I got the specs from.

Still not too many games. Mostly the ones known to be pretty taxing (Metro 2033 is the new Crysis after all XD). You're right about the trend though. In point of fact, multi-core in general seems to be the future, as rather than pumping out more power, they've just been optimizing each generation a bit more, and adding cores. Remember the days when Dual Cores were amazing newfangled things? XD

I'm quite sure Neoseeker will start using Battlefield 3 in their hardware testing eh?

I never completed Bad Company myself (Got it on the PS3), though I have BC2 installed on my PC (Steam).
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ashantiqua Mar 15, 11
ive been rocking the dual core & 2GB of ddr2 on x64 for ages... bf3 might be the first game that will force me to upgrade.

dual core runs everything fine (yes even bc2), and so far for me, the only game that has really needed more ram was... nothing. only bf2 project reality stumbles for the first minute, but after that its perfect.

for the non-believers however (always someone screaming 'you need moar CORES! i7 you asshole!), i play at a high res (2304x1440), so my CPU largely takes a backseat, and my ram has pretty good timings (ddr2 800 @ 4-4-3-8 @1t, ~= ddr3 1600 @ 8-8-6-16). im sure gta4 would chug on my pc, but that port is such a mess why bother. theres something about the x360 version anyway...
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Northern49 Mar 15, 11
I think I'll get a second job for the month to work toward this. I technically can afford to upgrade atm, but I don't want to be digging into my school fund. My rig will be turning 3 years old in September. Everything needs an upgrade, but I may consider buying a second 9800 and using SLI. It may not be DX11, but I'll cope.
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chautemoc Mar 15, 11
Shadow of Death As I said, that was just off the top of my head. More: Mafia II, Civilization V, GTA4, Shogun 2, Homefront, Dragon Age II, Bulletstorm, Assassin's Creed II. I'm sure there are many more, and more again that don't recommend it but benefit from more cores regardless.

Also, hexacore isn't inaccessible -- AMD goes more the value route with it. The solid 1055t for example can be had for less than $200.

And yeah, we'll definitely be using it for testing. If the hardware department doesn't get on it themselves, I'll make sure they do.

Bad Company 2 is the most value for money I've ever gotten from a video game.

ashantiqua Depends on exact models and all, but the difference between my old Phenom X2 and my Phenom X6 on Bad Company 2 is astounding. I actually score consistently much higher as a result of the improved framerate -- the game really benefits from it. I always thought I was "fine" until I switched over. This is the consensus in the official forums.
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THM Mar 15, 11
I hope I can play it with my PC
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