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    mmfiore since Jan 2010 | Jan 14, 10
    Einstein was right about the shortcomings of Quantum Mechanics and so therefore String Theory is also the incorrect approach. As an alternative to Quantum Theory there is a new theory that describes and explains the mysteries of physical reality. While not disrespecting
    the value of Quantum Mechanics as a tool to explain the role of quanta in our universe. This theory states that there is also a classical explanation for the paradoxes such as EPR and the Wave-Particle Duality. The Theory is called the Theory of Super Relativity and is located
    at: http://www.superrelativity.org
    This theory is a philosophical attempt to reconnect the physical universe to realism and deterministic concepts. It explains the mysterious.
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Jan 14, 10
    Thanks for posting. I find such theories quite fascinating to read. The multiverse sure gets wacky when extreme amounts of mass and energy involved. Personally I also enjoy reading about research into holographic universe theory. Exceptionally interesting stuff!
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    THM since Jan 2008 | Jan 14, 10
    Well, I personally believe nothing travels faster than "light" which is the fastest thing in our known universe:)

    Nevertheless, some objects travel nearly (very nearly) at the speed of light, for instance, binary "neutron stars" may orbit and gradually attract each other at the speed of light before they collide each other:))))

    So the pulsar in the aforementioned research can be a bit contentious!!!
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Jan 14, 10
    Well technically you are correct. But the thing is, if an object has significantly extreme amounts of energy, it sort of warps time to the point where the 'time' for the object is not the same 'time' that sub-light objects exist in . So for the object, it does not exceed the speed of light, but for anyone observing the object, the object does appear to move faster than light.

    I think anyways. I don't profess to be an expert. But that is my understanding of the matter. The force of gravity (which is still not fully understood) also is able to affect objects faster than light, I believe.

    Breaking the speed of light is impossible in the sense of the energy involved would be infinite, but there are special cases, and work-arounds. The multiverse is a strange and infinite place where anything is possible by the nature of it being infinite.
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    THM since Jan 2008 | Jan 14, 10
    Pretty astounding comment, Kevin...

    Yes, the universe is just too big to understand properly...if there were God, he must be a great mathematician and physicist that can create complex formulae that human beings don't quite understand yet...

    In terms of gravity, I'd learnt that "gravity" is nothing but a curvature of space time... but "gravity" and of course, "dark matters" have something to do with our expansion of universe since Edwin Hubble's discovery of expansion of our universe...for instance, some "quasars" are also moving away at nearly light speed from our Milky Way galaxy:))

    All in all, as time goes by, our ever-increasing technologies can unlock some unknown secrets within the very fabrics of our universe and beyond...
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Jan 14, 10
    Thanks THM

    I think physics will continue to be mysterious for pretty much forever for us humans. The more understanding of the universe we have, the stranger and stranger it seems to get.

    Dark matter is another entirely huge, and fascinating, question mark.

    Oh forgot to mention earlier quantum entanglement also in way, can be seen as operating at faster than light velocities. If you synchronize two objects in this way, they can affect each other near instantly over vast distances. For example, if you separated two quantum entanglement objects, and had one on Earth, and one on Alpha Centuria, if you changed the state of the one object the other object would near-instantaneously reverse its state to reflect the change. This is theorized to happen at the 'speed' of somewhere of 10,000 times the speed of light. However, this method can not be used for any sort of information transfer, due to physical laws.

    I love this stuff
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    THM since Jan 2008 | Jan 14, 10
    Wow, Yes, I also love "quantum entanglement"...

    It has something to do with the multiple dimensions of universe:)

    I don't know that much about, nevertheless, there must some unifying mechanism(s) that control everything in our universe and other (if exist).

    Now, let me refer back to ancient Greek time when Zeno, the founder of "Stoic ideas", argued that even time has some kind of bodily substance (materialism) that everything can ultimately be referred to a "single unifying principle (monism) (Staniforth 1964: 10).

    I personally believe that "quantum mechanics" operates with different "patterns and nature", but we can somehow unify "quantum mechanics" with our existing laws of physics.

    Simply because, everything has purpose for one another in their existence within universe; the mechanism which is operating and controlling our universe can be explained by every nature of (physic) phenomena which we understand thus far...
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    jdj1976 since Sep 2008 | Jan 15, 10
    wow you guys are smart so a dumb question


    Do to the fact that we are still a fledging race how can we say that there is nothing that
    Travels faster than light

    when there is a whole universe out there whit Meany mysteries

    That we don’t now of yet
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Jan 15, 10
    I wouldn't say that. In fact I'd be shocked if there were not aliens that travel faster than light. I base this on:

    1) There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on a big beach. There are trillions of stars; more than 80 billion galaxies. And this is just our universe; I think it is likely there infinite universes. [I.E a multiverse, not a universe]

    2) Life is not that unusual that it only happens on one planet in a galaxy. That's a ridiculous notion that I can't believe many people think is true. It is a naturally occurring process, deriving out of chaos; thus even if one in a million planets had life there is tons of life in the universe. If life happened here, it means it is possible, and with the number of planets that are out there, it is practically inconceivable that it only happened in our average, far out in the outer fringe solar system. That makes no rational sense.

    3) Life evolves. Survival of the fittest is a rule of life. Complexity, and intelligence, is a great survival mechanism, thus, any planet that has life has pretty good odds of developing intelligent beings after millions of years of evolutionary inter-species conflict.

    4) Look at what the human race is capable of this many thousands of years into our civilization. The Internet, nanotech,biotech, etc. An extraterrestrial race could have potentially invented fire millions of years into its history. Thus,I think it is highly probable that they would advance to the point where they can move faster than light. And there are methods of traveling faster than light that even many of the more.. stringent/unimaginative physicists would probably even say are feasible for an advanced race, such as traveling through wormholes.

    A hundred years ago hardly a single scientist would have believed half the stuff we are capable of doing now. Imagine how much things will change 5,000 years from now, if we survive.

    That about sums up my thoughts on the matter. I think it is absurdly improbable that there are not F.T.L traveling civilizations in the universe, if not our galaxy. I've met some fairly smart people that think we are the alone in the galaxy, and I just don't see how anyone could think that, all things considered.
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    Hellfire29 since Jun 2007 | Jan 15, 10
    quote kspiess
    In fact I'd be shocked if there were not aliens that travel faster than light.
    How do you know that won't be our civilisation at some point, and we become the aliens to a less advanced civilisation? On a side note, I can see many science teachers being completely owned the second they mention the speed of light.
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    Lorx since Apr 2006 | Jan 15, 10
    Awesome article Kspeiss!

    Science is so complicated; Most people don't understand even the simpler, outdated theories of the stuff of life, and their only exposure to DNA is CSI Bull. I don't think I could ever be a scientist, the science behind how this stuff works goes way over my head. I just try to grab the implications, the meanings, and just what is going on in simple words these days xD.

    The fact that we exist and have the ability to think, convey information to each other, and grow as a species in a cultural and scientific sense had such an extremely rare chance of happening that it's quite possible there are no 'aliens'. We've only found one other planet that would be habitable to creatures we can fathom, but it was destroyed a while ago. I read a hypothesis once of how many planets there probably are in the universe that aren't barren and can sustain life (that we can fathom), but I forget the number sadly. And the chances of scientifically and technologically advanced life living on those planets was a very, very small number. It's possible that aliens exist, much more probable that they have existed in the past I think, but there's no way to know until we find some evidence one way or the other. So far the only evidence, is the lack of evidence about any aliens.
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Jan 15, 10
    Thanks

    Hellfire: I think that will come to pass.

    Lorx: Good stuff..! Two quick things: even if the number was a "very, very small number" .0000001% of 60 billion of galaxies filled with planets still turns out to be a massive number, that would take me a long time to write out. 2nd point: once a civilization reaches the point where it can travel interstellar space, either faster or slower than light speed, I think it is highly likely that they will be around for millions of years... nothing can take them out at that point. Unnlless there is some sort of planet eating space monster out there or something
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    CptBoots since Jan 2010 | Jan 15, 10
    I find this exciting, seeing as how we have a dense ribbon of neutral particle emissions at the stellar boundary of SOL. Also, What would limit Quantum entanglement from communicating virtual data? using the same basic principles that we rely on for 8-bit data representation. Provide a relay containing 8 constantly monitored entangled particles that are changed in one fashion or another as a group to relay data. if we had computers both monitoring and manipulating these we would be able to send and receive data at speeds relative to those we can accomplish on a terrestrial setting.

    But that isn't what I wanted to say. Mainly, that I am excited to see that radiowaves can be have their wave-lengths modified by magnetic forces similar to those which we have available on astronomical hand. This could allow for some form of massless transfer. But this precedent requires certain breakthroughs that are yet to come.
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    nikhilmahajan since Jan 2010 | Jan 18, 10
    How do we observe something that travels faster than the speed of light and how do we know its even approximate location
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    tcalbaz since Jan 2010 | Jan 19, 10
    Great topic!

    CptBoots - I think you hit the nail on the head.

    What you're describing could also be called rudimentary subspace telementry/radio and IMOHO the very basis for the establishment of galactic scale civilization.

    How? Having such an ability to communicate would allow for the establishment of vast galactic scale civilizations to stay in sync and in touch with its inhabitants.

    Just think. Having near instant communictions with any of our space probes and vehicles. Even here on earth such an ability would be immensely valuable for remote robotic control and communications.

    I believe this entanglement concept was alreadydemonstrated over 30 years ago.

    So what are we waiting for?

    Cheers!
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    kspiess since Jun 2007 | Jan 20, 10
    Hold the spaceship though guys

    You can not use quantum entanglement for the purposes of communication ( which also follows btw, the rule that information can not travel faster than light.) When I first heard of quantum entanglement I thought exactly the same thing. The problem is a bit complex so I'm going to suggest checking out this page over here for the explanation:

    http://everything2.com/title/Quantum+entanglement+and+faster+than+light+communication

    Basically you can't really tell which state is which in an entangled object unless you are able to know the state of both. Like many things in the quantum world, it is a bit of a wacky situation.
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    MrGrimm since Mar 2008 | Jan 25, 10
    quote jdj1976
    wow you guys are smart so a dumb question


    Do to the fact that we are still a fledging race how can we say that there is nothing that
    Travels faster than light

    when there is a whole universe out there whit Meany mysteries

    That we don’t now of yet
    Ahh, yes, this is more my language. Stand back guys, I'll handle this question: wat
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    JonnyFandango since Jan 2010 | Jan 26, 10
    I've really enjoyed reading the comments left for this article. kspiess, cptboots, tcalbaz, thm, you guys have really taken this concept out to it's logical lines... just as I have been. The idea of a FTL communication system is a staggering concept, but I suspect as others have said here that the 'but can't send information' is a bit more tricky than we might imagine. I wish that I had more to contribute to the conversation, but many of my thoughts have already been spoken here. I, like you folks, share awed admiration for these subjects. I once heard someone say 'we are simply the universe trying to understand itself.' .. I remember on hearing it that I really couldn't grasp what they were trying to say. We've all heard the saying 'We are all star-stuff' as said by Sagan and others... but I guess the incredible part of that saying is that it's TRUE! We are a LIVING(!) element of the universe composed of highly concentrated energy among vast amounts of empty space! Think too hard on that and you'll likely induce a seizure, but wow.. just wow.. the universe really is awe inspiring! Let's hope that rational, secular discourse regarding such matters will one day become the norm, as to allow our species to take their (perhaps rightful) place as those 'aliens' zooming around in FTL 'hyperspace'! Truth really is stranger than fiction, we really are all connected in a meaningful, complex, and beautiful way!
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