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gerard way owns you Jul 19, 09
There is absolutely no problem with people who are gay at all. Honestly, this is something I can support, acceptance through exposure. I have good friends who are gay, and it doesn't change a thing. Now, I would admit playing a game as a gay character may shy me away, but then again, I am also turned away from games when I have to play as a female (Mirror's Edge being an exception). The fact is that since video games are nothing more than a work of fiction, and an art, it is ultimately up to the individual what that character is like. A good example is Dumbledore in Harry Potter. JK Rowling has said he is gay, but there are no points in the books that show this. Therefore, It's ultimately up to the reader how they portray him. The same can be applied to games, and many other forms of media.
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Shadow of Death Jul 19, 09
While that 'slow reveal' is an interesting idea, and would be something I'd be interested in seeing happen, I just can't actually SEE it happening for a long time at least (Not in a blockbuster game anyhow, they wouldn't want to take the risk I'd think).

But still, it would basically be good because it'd be treating the main character as just your average generic badass, who just so happens to be gay *shrugs*.

Though I agree that a 'big reveal' is probably a bit much (patronizing in a way, as you said, as well as tacked on), it does open up a different door. If the game is awesome, and many that are playing it already want a second one, well, if it is revealed at the end that the lead is gay, they'll either have to accept that their awesome character is gay and this great game includes homosexual themes, or just be homophobic about it ~_~

Course, the 'big reveal' would be spoiled pretty fast (then again, so would the slow reveal), so ehhhh, either way, they'll be losing sales because of people that "don't want to see that".

Lesbian lead, nonwitstanding. I can see them doing that though, sooner than a male homosexual/bisexual anyhow. While both genders have some way to go to accepting homosexuality as a whole, I have to say it is males that generally seem the most perturbed by it.....Except when it involves lesbians, it seems lots of guys just go crazy about it XD
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Final Blade Jul 19, 09
Good article RCG. I just wish some day people will just accept them on XBL and stuff and not be idiots about it.
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Absolute Jul 19, 09
As I myself would have no problem with it; I can imagine quite a few people would. I can also see why developers are apprehensive about having gay (or closeted) leads.

While a comic sells for a few dollars, a game goes for $59.99 new. As such, I imagine those intolerant to things such as homosexuality would cause quite an uproar if they find out they're playing someone who is in fact, gay. Unfortunately, in this day and age, surprise reveals offend more often than they amuse. =/

Although I believe Bioware/Lionhead's "open world" approach is definitely a step in the right direction, and in the future the general gaming audience might be ready to accept a lead who is pre-determined to be gay.

But my point still remains. I'm afraid its not "which developer will be the first to step up?" but more like "which developer will be the first to step up, but also take in an enormous amount of negative press and a huge financial blow?".

My 2 cents.
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SPAZwazza Jul 19, 09
I think the Big Reveal would be funnier. Let the player fall in love with the character, achieve 100% completion in order to get the good ending, which turns out to be the character looking right into the camera and going "Oh, guess what? I'm gay. I'll just give that a minute to sink in...and to answer your question, yes. Me being gay and you liking me does in fact make YOU gay. Let the pride parade begin!"...then confetti rains down, cue It's Rainin' Men. Best. Ending. Ever.
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bruceleethree Jul 19, 09
Why is everything about Sex in this society? What is the fuss regarding reproduction? Why do we glamor it so much!!! Every species on this planet does it, it's been happening for hundreds of millions of years. It's not a miracle! It's an evolutionary survival tool!!!

So stop thinking about sex 24/7, you're brainwashed if that is the pinnacle of your existence, to mate or reproduce.

The brain has advanced enough that we ought not think with the reproductive organs and hormones and utilize the complex processor upstairs!

These arguments about homosexuality is tiring because it's such a primitive thing. How about we don't have games with straight or gay characters but just characters that never allude to their sexuality?

EVOLVE PEOPLE EVOLVE

/endrant
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chautemoc Jul 19, 09
Dude, I'm not trying to offend you, but you mustn't have had sex yet. It's really quite something -- some things don't get old.

That said, best in my opinion is sex attained through means of the mind -- i.e. forging a relationship with a person based on respect, trust, intelligence, etc., then having sex stem from that. It can go far beyond any of society's various expressions on it you dislike -- anything can be anything, really.
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Guest Jul 19, 09
Seriously there taking this too far. I dont want to see gays in the street so I definately dont want to see them in my games!
I just find it wrong.
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fullcollapse07 Jul 19, 09
I agree with all your comments and have to say i'd totally laugh at the whole reveal thing if it ever does happen. Checking out all the anti-game news and such surrounding it haha it still strikes me as kind of idiotic that we even have to discuss about an issue like this, allow everthing and limit nothing is the way most developers should consider when making a game that involves such issues. I'd also laugh at the fact if a developer decided to change a famous main characters sexual preference out of nowhere lol. Imagine finding out this whole time Donkey kong was gay? I'd absolutely love that
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Qwark Jul 19, 09
quote Lee
Seriously there taking this too far. I dont want to see gays in the street so I definately dont want to see them in my games!
I just find it wrong
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Bigot.
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The Darkest Shadow Jul 20, 09
quote Lee
Seriously there taking this too far. I dont want to see gays in the street so I definately dont want to see them in my games!
I just find it wrong.
Someone's a little bit insecure? If that standard is one you've developed yourself and not been taught, then please. Go die somewhere.
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gerard way owns you Jul 20, 09
quote Lee
Seriously there taking this too far. I dont want to see gays in the street so I definately dont want to see them in my games!
I just find it wrong.
Or just a total closed-minded a--hole.
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Jesus Jul 20, 09
quote Lee
Seriously there taking this too far. I dont want to see gays in the street so I definately dont want to see them in my games!
I just find it wrong.
What makes them any different from you? If they aren't flambuoyantly gay, you're generally not going to be able to tell them apart from anyone else in the street. If you had a friend who turned out to be gay, would you turn your back on them and display your own insecurity with sexuality? What makes you disliking gays different to Joe hating black people? Nothing.
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bruceleethree Jul 20, 09
quote chautemoc
Dude, I'm not trying to offend you, but you mustn't have had sex yet. It's really quite something -- some things don't get old.

That said, best in my opinion is sex attained through means of the mind -- i.e. forging a relationship with a person based on respect, trust, intelligence, etc., then having sex stem from that. It can go far beyond any of society's various expressions on it you dislike -- anything can be anything, really.
You're one of the "addicted and brainwashed" to prove my point
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