Nancydective blogged
Oct 7, 09 9:31am

To the Americans the MYTHS of Canada's Health care system are just that Myths.

1. Myth: Taxes in Canada are extremely high, mostly because of national health care.

In actuality, taxes are nearly equal on both sides of the border. Overall, Canada’s taxes are slightly higher than those in the U.S. However, Canadians are afforded many benefits for their tax dollars, even beyond health care (e.g., tax credits, family allowance, cheaper higher education), so the end result is a wash. At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S., that average is 81.9 percent.

2.Myth: Canada’s health care system is a cumbersome bureaucracy.

The U.S. has the most bureaucratic health care system in the world. More than 31 percent of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, etc. The provincial single-payer system in Canada operates with just a 1 percent overhead. Think about it. It is not necessary to spend a huge amount of money to decide who gets care and who doesn’t when everybody is covered.

3.Myth: The Canadian system is significantly more expensive than that of the U.S.

Ten percent of Canada’s GDP is spent on health care for 100 percent of the population. The U.S. spends 17 percent of its GDP but 15 percent of its population has no coverage whatsoever and millions of others have inadequate coverage. In essence, the U.S. system is considerably more expensive than Canada’s. Part of the reason for this is uninsured and under insured people in the U.S. still get sick and eventually seek care. People who cannot afford care wait until advanced stages of an illness to see a doctor and then do so through emergency rooms, which cost considerably more than primary care services.

What the American taxpayer may not realize is that such care costs about $45 billion per year, and someone has to pay it. This is why insurance premiums increase every year for insured patients while co-pays and deductibles also rise rapidly.

4.Canada’s government decides who gets health care and when they get it.

While HMOs and other private medical insurers in the U.S. do indeed make such decisions, the only people in Canada to do so are physicians. In Canada, the government has absolutely no say in who gets care or how they get it. Medical decisions are left entirely up to doctors, as they should be.

There are no requirements for pre-authorization whatsoever. If your family doctor says you need an MRI, you get one. In the U.S., if an insurance administrator says you are not getting an MRI, you don’t get one no matter what your doctor thinks – unless, of course, you have the money to cover the cost.

5. Myth: There are long waits for care, which compromise access to care.

There are no waits for urgent or primary care in Canada. There are reasonable waits for most specialists’ care, and much longer waits for elective surgery. Yes, there are those instances where a patient can wait up to a month for radiation therapy for breast cancer or prostate cancer, for example. However, the wait has nothing to do with money per se, but everything to do with the lack of radiation therapists. Despite such waits, however, it is noteworthy that Canada boasts lower incident and mortality rates than the U.S. for all cancers combined, according to the U.S. Cancer Statistics Working Group and the Canadian Cancer Society. Moreover, fewer Canadians (11.3 percent) than Americans (14.4 percent) admit unmet health care needs.

6.Myth: Canadians are paying out of pocket to come to the U.S. for medical care.

Most patients who come from Canada to the U.S. for health care are those whose costs are covered by the Canadian governments. If a Canadian goes outside of the country to get services that are deemed medically necessary, not experimental, and are not available at home for whatever reason (e.g., shortage or absence of high tech medical equipment; a longer wait for service than is medically prudent; or lack of physician expertise), the provincial government where you live fully funds your care. Those patients who do come to the U.S. for care and pay out of pocket are those who perceive their care to be more urgent than it likely is.

7. Myth: Canada is a socialized health care system in which the government runs hospitals and where doctors work for the government.

Princeton University health economist Uwe Reinhardt says single-payer systems are not “socialized medicine” but “social insurance” systems because doctors work in the private sector while their pay comes from a public source. Most physicians in Canada are self-employed. They are not employees of the government nor are they accountable to the government. Doctors are accountable to their patients only. More than 90 percent of physicians in Canada are paid on a fee-for-service basis. Claims are submitted to a single provincial health care plan for reimbursement, whereas in the U.S., claims are submitted to a multitude of insurance providers. Moreover, Canadian hospitals are controlled by private boards and/or regional health authorities rather than being part of or run by the government.

8. Myth: There aren’t enough doctors in Canada.

From a purely statistical standpoint, there are enough physicians in Canada to meet the health care needs of its people. But most doctors practice in large urban areas, leaving rural areas with bona fide shortages. This situation is no different than that being experienced in the U.S. Simply training and employing more doctors is not likely to have any significant impact on this specific problem. Whatever issues there are with having an adequate number of doctors in any one geographical area, they have nothing to do with the single-payer system.

And these are just some of the myths about the Canadian health care system. While emulating the Canadian system will likely not fix U.S. health care, it probably isn’t the big bad “socialist” bogeyman it has been made out to be.

about 22,000 Americans die because of lack of health insurance since you can't get insurance if:
you have a pre-consisting condition (eg. Diabetic, or the victim of domestic abuse, & if you have freckles )

The workplaces in the U.S. Do offer some kind of health care plan but the employee has to pay the majority of it and the company only pays like 1/3 or something so most employees in the U.S. can't afford to pay the most of it.

so its something like this: company offers dual plan to Employee= Employee is suppose to pay 90% of the plan = company pays only 10% of the plan= Employee turns it down because of the fact she/he isn't a millionaire/billionaire=so company doesn't pay their part either.
Nancydective blogged
Sep 20, 09 12:04am

If we want peace in this world, we need to stop having wars. We also need to stop sending our surplus food over to countries like Haiti and Africa. When we do that they are stuck using their land for stuff like coffee, cotton, cocoa, and rubber (cash crops) and can’t use any of their own land for their own food. That means they go hungry because they can’t afford the food we “give” them. That means they leave their land to “the women” and other male relatives to take care when they go to the cities to try to get a job there and is fruitless because a lot of other farmers are doing the exactly the same.

That the story of how Haiti became so poor. They were dairy farmers and sold milk between themselves. One day the Untied States exported dairy from United States and that made the Haitian farmers’ milk became expensive and that why they went to the city to find jobs and it was fruitless and many could only find part-time jobs .

We also need to be open minded of other races and religions. What did Martin Luther King Jr. say in his I HAVE A DREAM speech during the Civil Rights movement? He said I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. One day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers. We might not live in Alabama or the United States but the same still applies to the whole world. Another part of his speech said:[i] And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!" That is almost true with Obama being president in the United States. We should allow our immigrants to get the jobs they are qualified for and not be stuck with jobs like taxi drivers. Our countries should not send our auto industry jobs down to Mexico or the country’s businesses outsourcing their telecenters to China and other Asian places. Henry Ford once said: There is one rule for industrialists and that is: make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, wages possible. Also they should hear this saying "See the forest for the trees”. They need to understand the cycle of economy and how the government works.


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