Author: Broly The LSSJ
Date: Aug 13, 07 at 1:23pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quoteYeah but I heard in the new Blue Ray set, Piccolo will be shown with his white Super Namek aura (along with other movie improvements) so it'll help prove the level he was at, even though the timeline should as well.Although I find it to be a shame, that's indeed what it comes down to, Goku is the hero. Although in DBZ, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo and even Goten and Trunks got the chance to shine at times. But in the movies, and certainly GT, it was all Goku.
quoteYeah and because he didn't know Gohan was already at full power.Even if by some chance he could go SSJ, he wouldn't get stronger at all. Gohan was fighting in his base form and beating the crap out of Super Buu, I guess that's what stunned Piccolo so much, the fact that Gohan didn't even have to transform to trash Buu.
Author: vegetaboi4life
Date: Aug 13, 07 at 1:29pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quoteThats what i told you before. Gohan was struck in the back by Hirudigarn. Meaning he didn't see the attack coming.I'm not sure if he was struck in the back, I'll have to see it again but what I said with the training/slacking is what Kyle told me before.
Author: vegetaboi4life
Date: Aug 13, 07 at 1:55pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quote BrolytheLSSJI know that, but i doubt he was that much stronger. Probably by a limited amount.I watched it again and yeah, Hirudegarn came behind him and wrapped him in his tail and then threw to the building but you do remember what Kyle said about whos stronger in this movie right?
Author: G_O_G_E_T_A
Date: Aug 13, 07 at 2:54pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quoteHe can't always be right, Gohan apparently was still able to use his full power which means that the lack of training didn't effect him yet.I'm not sure if he was struck in the back, I'll have to see it again but what I said with the training/slacking is what Kyle told me before.
And yeah, Hirudegarn used that teleport move on Gohan, where he appears behind them, that move beat Gohan. Against Goku he only used normal punches, which Goku could handle pretty well as we saw.
Author: SSJ4BROLY
Date: Aug 13, 07 at 2:59pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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well since gohans potential is greater than gokus in Z and mystic is gohans full potential unlocked doesnt that mean that can never get stronger than gohans mystic in Z and also that goku could not be stronger than gohan in movie 13?
Author: vegetaboi4life
Date: Aug 13, 07 at 4:45pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quote SSJ4BROLYLike I said, I never had the talk with kyle like broly the lssj did with this situation, but the only logical thing here is that toei apparently made gohan weaker than he was in the series. Toei calls the shots here.well since gohans potential is greater than gokus in Z and mystic is gohans full potential unlocked doesnt that mean that can never get stronger than gohans mystic in Z and also that goku could not be stronger than gohan in movie 13?
They made Gohan weaker than he was in the series. Basically, Mystic Gohan [movie 13]>Super Buu. He lost a great deal of power obviously because of the lack of training.
Also, in the movie, gohan said that his father was the only one who could beat that monster. So, again, obviously, he slacked off. Because theres no way SSJ3 Goku>Mystic Gohan from the series.
quoteKyle works with funimation. I'd think he would be right on way more things than we are. Since he talks with the producers about stuff. Just read my post above, things will be more clear.He can't always be right, Gohan apparently was still able to use his full power which means that the lack of training didn't effect him yet.
Author: G_O_G_E_T_A
Date: Aug 14, 07 at 10:01am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quoteBut not on this one, if Gohan got weaker he wouldn't have been able to use his full power anymore, but he was, which means no loss of power.Kyle works with funimation. I'd think he would be right on way more things than we are. Since he talks with the producers about stuff. Just read my post above, things will be more clear.
Author: vegetaboi4life
Date: Aug 15, 07 at 8:11am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quote G_O_G_E_T_AOr, it could mean a regular filler plothole.quoteBut not on this one, if Gohan got weaker he wouldn't have been able to use his full power anymore, but he was, which means no loss of power.Kyle works with funimation. I'd think he would be right on way more things than we are. Since he talks with the producers about stuff. Just read my post above, things will be more clear.
Which, gohan said that goku was the only one who could beat hirudigarn.
That is obviously saying SSJ3 Goku>Mystic gohan in movie 13.
Author: G_O_G_E_T_A
Date: Aug 15, 07 at 8:44am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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Oh come on, please tell you're not falling back on that again. Of course Gohan said that, that's the way the plot was written. There is no logical reasoning behind Goku beeing stronger than Gohan if you ask me.
Author: vegetaboi4life
Date: Aug 15, 07 at 9:38am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quote G_O_G_E_T_AI said in movie 13. The logic makes no sense I know. This is like my GT logic with the tail, in the original anime Mystic Gohan>>>>>>>>>>FPSSJ3 Goku. But obviously, in movie 13 SSJ3 Goku>Mystic Gohan according to gohan.Oh come on, please tell you're not falling back on that again. Of course Gohan said that, that's the way the plot was written. There is no logical reasoning behind Goku beeing stronger than Gohan if you ask me.
We all know there is just no logic behind it. But do not forget, there is hardly any logic in the movies. Like, movie 9 for example, goku was dead, so how was he able to go back to earth and floor bojack [final form] with one punch in base form?
Author: G_O_G_E_T_A
Date: Aug 15, 07 at 10:00am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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Tell me about it. Hey here's another one, in GT, when Trunks in his base form blasted Oozaru Baby, and he was knocked over. GT is fun to watch really, but it makes no sense on a lot of occassions.
Author: vegetaboi4life
Date: Aug 15, 07 at 9:20pm (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quote G_O_G_E_T_AYeah I remember thatTell me about it. Hey here's another one, in GT, when Trunks in his base form blasted Oozaru Baby, and he was knocked over. GT is fun to watch really, but it makes no sense on a lot of occassions.
Shit, Base Trunks>SSJ4 Goku
And yeah, GT is definitely fun to watch. But it just makes no sense lol. Its actually funny how a Base Goku>SSJ4 Goku lol
Author: punchout88
Date: Aug 17, 07 at 1:59am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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quote SSJ4BROLYMystic Gohan = FPssj3 Gohan (to the peak of ssj3) As I've explained before. Goku at base is alot stronger than Gohan at base, so if Goku wasn't 100% at his full ssj3 power, I'm sure he can top Gohan's.well since gohans potential is greater than gokus in Z and mystic is gohans full potential unlocked doesnt that mean that can never get stronger than gohans mystic in Z and also that goku could not be stronger than gohan in movie 13?
Author: SSJ4BROLY
Date: Aug 17, 07 at 2:16am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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gohans potential is above gokus which means that goku shouldnt be able to be stronger than mystic gohan, which is some else that is messed up in gt
Author: adamrpg
Date: Aug 17, 07 at 2:33am (PST)
Subject: re: Goku >>> Gohan (potential wise)
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I agree.I remenber a part In GT where goku says,"I know what we should do".
Then Vegeta says,"No!Don't you say the F-word!
Goku:You know I don't curse!
Vegeta:"I mean Fusion you Idiot!
Goku:Fusion's a great Idea Vegeta!
Vegeta:*Slaps himself on his head*Uhh.