Author: tko_10xlegend
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 1:59am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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well it whether you believe movie 13 is following fillers or hax. im leading toward fillers due to i doubt toei is going to make a bug that can breath fire the strongest villan in dbz.
Author: Mishimi
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 2:06am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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regardless of whether you choose to follow haxes or filler that doesn't change the fact that Hirudegarne IS stronger than Fat Janemba no excuses... There is no need to treat one movie differently than the other like that. Judge feats per movie period, end of story.
Author: MajinGirl
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 2:10am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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quote Mishimi
quote MajinGirl
Yeah, Fat Janemba never showed any regeneration abilities, but Super Janemba does.
And Flying Bug Version Hirudegarn wins this with very little trouble. I can't say how the other forms would fare, though.
I think you and Vegetto are missing the point that Fat Janemba never showed regenerative abilities but that doesn't mean he couldn't. He never needed to till SSJ3 Goku *bleep*ed him up. Why would he regenerate after SSJ3 Goku flattened him when he knew doing so would change nothing in their fight? He opted to transform because it was the useful option.
Fat Janemba had all the other tricks skinny Janemba had more or less as far as warping and shit.
But I guess it doesn't really matter, why NEED regeneration if you can just transform to that evil skinny bastard Janemba anyway.
Perhaps, you do have a point. But the reason I say that Fat Janemba couldn’t do any type of regeneration was because Super regenerated the cracks Pikkon’s insults put on his body just by doing his Bunkai Teleport. And Janemba was only ever shown using that technique in his final form.
Author: tko_10xlegend
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 2:19am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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yes hirudegarn is stronger BUT i dont believe he is as strong as people say he is. janemba on the other hand could be hax depending on the situation. but regardless hirudegarn is stronger then fat but no super
Author: Mishimi
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 2:44am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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no, you're right tko, Super Janemba would wipe the floor with either form of Hirudegarne.
Author: Super Vegetto
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 2:56am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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quote Mishimi
no, you're right tko, Super Janemba would wipe the floor with either form of Hirudegarne.
Only if you belive SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks
Author: Mishimi
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 3:04am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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well Hirudegarne couldn't stand up to SSJ3 Goku, but Super Janemba wiped the floor with SSJ3 Goku. SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks going by that logic, as far as movies 12 and 13 are concerned, which I would not compare to canon SSJ3 Gotenks. Canon SSJ3 Gotenks I would place above movie 12 Gogeta. Anytime we are dealing with movies, they give Goku the upper hand everytime, including fusions.
Author: XxSkelterXx
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 3:38am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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Well, Super Gogeta being a God to Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is fine by me. If Vegetto can be wolrds above, why not a fusion that's made of the same 2 people??
Author: Mishimi
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 3:58am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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I think you know the answer to that.
Author: tko_10xlegend
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 5:15am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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quote XxSkelterXx
Well, Super Gogeta being a God to Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is fine by me. If Vegetto can be wolrds above, why not a fusion that's made of the same 2 people??
IMO in toei world there close to each other. vegito in the fillers aint godly strong like manga vegito.
Id say super janemba above buutenks in filler due to doing a quicker job but buuhan is stronger then janemba
id say ssj vegito>ssj gogeta=>base vegito>buuhan=>janemba full power
i have manga ssj3 gotenks 8x of ssj3 goku. and manga ultimate gohan about 12x of ssj3 goku.
id say gogeta is 10x and vegito is 11x of ssj3 goku
Author: XxSkelterXx
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 5:21am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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quote Mishimi
I think you know the answer to that.
Well yah, but it's so much fun to have people mad over the net over Gogeta being that strong... Have you been to pojo lately?? It's freaking awesome.
Author: brolyeuphyfusion
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 6:01am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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lol janemba warps hirudegarn into the center of a black hole
Author: G_O_G_E_T_A
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 10:47am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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Movie 13 comes after movie 12, so common sense ensures that Janemba, fat or slim form, stands a snowball's chance of defeating Hirudegarn.
Author: tko_10xlegend
Date: Apr 26, 12 at 10:49pm (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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doesnt mean anything
look at movie 8 and movie 9
lssj broly one shot gohan yet bojack didnt. bojack actually got a challenge by gohan
movie 13 hirudegarn would get one shot by janemba super.
Author: KaijuKai
Date: Apr 27, 12 at 6:03am (PST)
Subject: re: FAT Janemba vs Hirudegarn
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IMO, it seems, Janempa, the fat one, was surprised when SSJ3 goku was about to stomp him. Not sure where this is stated, but isnt janemba just a more fighter/combatant friendly form? could they both be =? with fat janemba just being immature, kinda like buu? idk.
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