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Author:   jmicahg
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 3:50am (PST)
Subject:   Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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Well, it took us a few days, but we benchmarked 7 (count 'em) seven NVIDIA 8600 video cards.

Read the entire review on out today.

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Author:   BASGTA
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 4:02am (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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EWWWWSUM.

I'm reading it now. =D

Oh, and FIRST!




Author:   kspiess
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 4:29am (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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Yup, that there is my first my Neoseeker article. I hope you guys like it.



Author:   Legendary SSJ Goku
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 4:49am (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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awesome .. gonna read,,,,... thanks kspiess... er.. jmicahg


whoever wrote it.... thanks and now to read..



Author:   axforts2212
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 3:16pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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quote BASGTA
EWWWWSUM.

I'm reading it now. =D

Oh, and FIRST!
lol i was reading it at 12:30 AM Too tired to post hehe

but its a good review. however i would never consider a 8600 when the 8800GTS 320mb doubles it for just a bit more. and thats what gamers want is power(i am a gamer) for an office machine or the occasional gamer though, hte 8600 would be great.




Author:   Redemption
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 5:43pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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Now that this is article is out it will be interesting to see what the ATI side of things will look like when it's officially released . I think a roundup of the midrange R600 class cards will be a worthwhile project.



Author:   Anonymous
Date:   Jun 19, 07 at 7:25pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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quote Redemption
Now that this is article is out it will be interesting to see what the ATI side of things will look like when it's officially released . I think a roundup of the midrange R600 class cards will be a worthwhile project.
Just based off of benchmarks, it would seem logical to have their flagships reduce in price and go for mid-level cards and have the soon-to-be-released revisions(R650?) go as the new flagship.

I haven't read much on AMDs plans, only that their R600 struggled against the 8800 series.



Author:   LoneRangers
Date:   Jun 20, 07 at 5:01pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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There seems to be some confusion as to which XFX 8600 GTS model you are reviewing here. Your description table of cards being reviewed here shows a 675/2000MHz model. However, your individual description and final conclusion suggest you are reviewing the 730/2260Mhz(PVT84GUDD3) model. Which model are you reviewing here?

Also, you do not state wht drivers are being used for the test. Are they manufacturer's(possibly tweaked) or reference Nvidia(version) drivers? This leads me to a question. Why do the '3D Mark Simple Shader Performance' scores seem skewed against the other 3D Mark scores in the test, based on GPU and memory speeds?

Finally, why was the CoH DX10 patch chosen not to be used for scoring these DX10 cards?

Thank you in advance for any insight into these questions.



Author:   LoneRangers
Date:   Jun 20, 07 at 5:11pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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Regarding my previous post of which XFX 8600 GTS, will the reviewer being modifying his conclusions based on the correct information?

To finish, are the G84 GPU's overclockable with any third party utilities?



Author:   Cheesysoapopra
Date:   Jun 20, 07 at 6:35pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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Most if not all GPUs are overclockable using Riva Tuner.



Author:   kspiess
Date:   Jun 20, 07 at 9:26pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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Hi LoneRanger(s). Thanks for taking the time to make your points. To address all of'em:

1- The chart info for the XFX 8600 gts was incorrect, and has been fixed. The info on the XFX page is correct: I had the PVT84GUDD3 model. (730/2260).

2-Sorry for not stating the drivers used; that info will always be in my forthcoming articles. I used the standard, latest Forceware drivers (158.22) dl'ed from nvidia.com

3-As for the simple shader performance question, I'm not exactly sure what you are wondering here -- are you curios as to why the XFX GT did so much better than the Gigabyte GT ?

4- Ideally we would have liked to include the Coh DX10 patch numbers. However, primarily due to time constraints, we decided not to throw those in. However, in my next article, which will not be out too long the road (might be finished by next Friday -- don't quote on that though) we'll be looking at some DirectX 10 numbers, and included will be 8600 GTS or GT (or both) benchmarks for CoH w/the patch.

5- My article's conclusion will not be changed. The XFX chart numbers was a typo; and I have not done any first-hand benching of their DirectX 10 performance so I can not say anything about how well they'll do at this point.

Finally, 6, I have not overclocked these cards myself, but you can do so with RivaTuner, (and perhaps some other programs.)

Sincere thanks for your comments LoneRangers. Criticisms like this sharpen my ability to deliver high quality articles for you guys.



Author:   Jet- A
Date:   Jul 30, 07 at 2:00pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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I have this VideoCard, where can I download drivers for it? I have Windows XP X64...





Author:   kspiess
Date:   Jul 30, 07 at 10:45pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Neoseekers NVIDIA 8600 Round-Up
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http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

Welcome to Neoseeker Jet-A...


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