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Author:   JacqueseVonRIP
Date:   Dec 23, 12 at 2:36pm (PST)
Subject:   The Magnificent Five - Fact or Fiction?
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The Magnificent Five are supposedly the 5 generals Sun Jian, Huang Gai, Cheng Pu, Han Dang, and Zu Mao. I heard about them before from Kongming, but when I checked back just a moment ago it said the group never existed at all and was just the imaginings of some fan. Does anyone know for sure?



Author:   Deathman48
Date:   Dec 23, 12 at 2:45pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Magnificent Five - Fact or Fiction?
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This is where we need someone like Han Ning and his knowledge of this period.

Shu and Wei supposedly has a "group" of 5 generals (5 Tigers of Shu I think) and so it's highly possible someone made this up to apply to Wu, maybe because they were feeling lonely.



Author:   JacqueseVonRIP
Date:   Dec 23, 12 at 3:01pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Magnificent Five - Fact or Fiction?
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quote Deathman48
This is where we need someone like Han Ning and his knowledge of this period.

Shu and Wei supposedly has a "group" of 5 generals (5 Tigers of Shu I think) and so it's highly possible someone made this up to apply to Wu, maybe because they were feeling lonely.
That's odd. I thought Wu already had their own up to date 5 general thing going on around the same time as Shu and Wei, but again I'm not really knowledgable of the period.



Author:   MaChaoTheSplendid
Date:   Dec 23, 12 at 3:27pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Magnificent Five - Fact or Fiction?
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I don't think it was legit in history, I mean even Shu's Five Tigers weren't actually known in their own time, pretty sure it was made up later, possibly by Luo?

Same with Wei's, just made up in the novel to match Shu's.

But yeah, the only Wu lot I've heard anything similar about was the group you said.



Author:   BrokenKnights
Date:   Dec 23, 12 at 3:45pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Magnificent Five - Fact or Fiction?
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Yup. Basically all made up. Shu's were Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Huang Zhong, Zhao Yun, and Ma Chao. Wei's were Zhang He, Zhang Liao, Xu Huang, Yu Jin, and Yue Jin.

If I were to pick 5 comparable Wu generals (in deeds / time period) they would probably have to be Gan Ning, Ling Tong, Chen Wu, Dong Xi, and Han Dang. Not that those are my favorites by any means, they just seem to fit the bill of veritable badasses.

EDIT: Yikes, Zhou Tai would need to be on that list. Over Chen Wu or Han Dang.


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