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Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 1:27pm (PST)
Subject:   2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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1. Why are the Intended Melee Characters not actually meleeing? I've seen Psychos (and their badass and other melee species) just stand at a distance and throw INFINITE axes and NOT melee............Why not just give them a gun at that point?

And why is it that when you get downed, every melee character runs 20 feet away and starts throwing axes............... NOT MELEEING!!!!!!!!!!

AND why in the same situation does every marauder run behinds cover and STAY IN COVER, NOT giving me a chance to kill them.

2. With Gaige being released and Anarchy being a forced choice for the Order Chaos tree, WHY does the X botton do Reload + Interaction AND why does the Y Button swap weapons, we have the Dpad for that.

It should be:
X = Reload.
Y = Interact/Enter and Exit Vehicle.

(You can swap them in the controllers settings)
I cant even count the amount of times i have reloaded (to which you can select a different weapon to stop it, but still) and lost me 150 stack...........

The Y weapon swap is only really viable with games that only allow 2 weapons (Halo and Gears) at a time and not 4.


3. Why are there SOOOOOOOOO many Suicide units in this game?



Author:   LinkinPork
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 3:42pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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I bind reload to some obscure button like '\' when I use Gaige, because of reloading habits. Max stacks all day.



Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 4:11pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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quote AznLiquid
I bind reload to some obscure button like '\' when I use Gaige, because of reloading habits. Max stacks all day.
Well that is all fine and dandy, but you are on PC and I am on Xbox.

The point of the post was is the; We have the Dpad for weapon switching, thus The Y button should be the Interact/Revive button. Which would eliminate this stupid problem.



Author:   Nagare
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 4:18pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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I hate that all the enemies back up from you when you're downed. Makes it so much harder to get the Second Wind, especially when you are downed right after killing an enemy :/



Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 4:37pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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quote Nagare
I hate that all the enemies back up from you when you're downed. Makes it so much harder to get the Second Wind, especially when you are downed right after killing an enemy :/
Hence why I stopped playing me Melee Zero.... well that and the fact the he got deleted due to a game glitch.

But anywho back to the point; THIS!!!!!



Author:   Ditnopota
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 4:43pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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WELL the weapon swap deal is convenient for me as my D-Pad is broken, but Triangle is working just fine.


However, the interaction being the same as reload has pissed me off a lot whilst getting Anarchy stacks.



Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 5:08pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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quote Ditnopota
WELL the weapon swap deal is convenient for me as my D-Pad is broken, but Triangle is working just fine.


However, the interaction being the same as reload has pissed me off a lot whilst getting Anarchy stacks.
Understandable, but they could then make Y Weapon Swap/Interact/Revive or at least give that option.



Author:   Ditnopota
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 5:22pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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quote Solx
Understandable, but they could then make Y Weapon Swap/Interact/Revive or at least give that option.


You know, I'd be pretty content with that. The only bonuses for weapon swaps are ones that deal more damage when you do swap (at least that I'm aware). It's a pain in the ass to have interaction *bleep* up and lose all your bonus damage.

Sometimes I randomly lose all my stacks without even reloading or being downed. Anarchy is a pain in the ass.



Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 5:26pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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There might be a few bugs left.



Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 5:29pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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3. Why are there SOOOOOO many Suicide Units in this game?



Author:   Kommando
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 9:14pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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1. The axes are easy to dodge. I consider that my advantage.

2. I just switch to a fully reloaded weapon before interacting with with anything.

3. The suicide bombers are the bane of CQC fighters. Did you really think they would allow the earth shattering damage that Anarchy can unleash without a good weakness to balance it out? Without those suicidal assholes, the diminished accuracy doesn't matter as much.




Author:   Solx
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 9:28pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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quote Kommando

1. The axes are easy to dodge. I consider that my advantage.

2. I just switch to a fully reloaded weapon before interacting with with anything.

3. The suicide bombers are the bane of CQC fighters. Did you really think they would allow the earth shattering damage that Anarchy can unleash without a good weakness to balance it out? Without those suicidal assholes, the diminished accuracy doesn't matter as much.


1. Melee characters SHOULD BE *bleep*ING MELEE..... not stand at the back of the map and throw digistructed axes for eternity. ESPECIALLY when i go down........

2. So this makes up for a incompetent design.......right......

3. So the whole "having to get 2 inches from someone to kill them" is not a bane (lol).
My annoyance is the ridiculous amount of suicides and the retarded amount of damage they do COMBINED.

Hell if Jack would just build an army of EXP loaders..... he would have won on day one.



Author:   KR_1250
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 11:22pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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I understand your frustration with some of those points OP, especially with marauders in general. First playthrough i baely noticed them but on True Vault Hunter mode they are still easy but really irritating. Their obsession with hiding is starting to annoy me.

But the thing is the questions posed in the OP dont really have an answer other than "thats how they designed it"



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Hell if Jack would just build an army of EXP loaders..... he would have won on day one.
LOL!






Author:   Jeremy
Date:   Oct 10, 12 at 11:43pm (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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Wait, now I might not be 100% on this, but can't you just change the button layout?

Or does the game automatically group interact/reload?




Author:   Kommando
Date:   Oct 11, 12 at 12:39am (PST)
Subject:   re: 2 Things I DONT Understand...........
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quote Solx
Hell if Jack would just build an army of EXP loaders..... he would have won on day one
Except then you'd expect them and stay the *bleep* away from everything that looks yellow.

Pro-tip if you see ANY loader or psycho running towards you, turn around and run to a safer position.

quote Solx
2. So this makes up for a incompetent design.......right......
It's only a problem with Gaige's OC tree. If it bothers you that much, then respec.


quote Solx
[color=navy]So the whole "having to get 2 inches from someone to kill them" is not a bane
Try aiming down sights more and or get the close enough skill. It balances anarchy stacks rather well. With ADS, you shouldn't have to be right in their face unless you are using a gun with 70 or worse accuracy to begin with.

quote Jeremy
Or does the game automatically group interact/reload?
Yes, it does.



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