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Author:   AgatioGanon
Date:   Sep 25, 12 at 6:30pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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Could they make a new stage with Kraid in the backround?

What's the chances of seeing Saturos and Menardi and Jenna appear as Golden Sun assist trophies?



Author:   Gotenks
Date:   Sep 25, 12 at 6:37pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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I'm not 100% sure if it would be possible to make Kraid return on a new stage unless he was in the newer Metroid games. I haven't played since the first Metroid Prime. They could just bring back the stage he was on in Melee as one of the classic stages.



Author:   Quixotic
Date:   Sep 25, 12 at 6:42pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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I think the Koopalings would be a nice idea for an Asisst Trophy. They could each use a signature attack or shoot magic from their wands. Speaking of wands, maybe Kamek could fill that role.



Author:   Gotenks
Date:   Sep 26, 12 at 4:54am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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quote Quixotic
I think the Koopalings would be a nice idea for an Asisst Trophy. They could each use a signature attack or shoot magic from their wands. Speaking of wands, maybe Kamek could fill that role.
Or I'm thinking they could do their little move that they did in NSMB2 where they were in the Koopa Clown Copter and will attempt to blind Mario. Not sure if it stuns Mario or makes him lose a power-up since I always avoided it.



Author:   BlueLore
Date:   Sep 26, 12 at 6:33am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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quote GaTheZakk
What's the chances of seeing Saturos and Menardi and Jenna appear as Golden Sun assist trophies?
to be honest I think that saturos and menardi have a rather low chance,simply because they are too distinct from each other.
You see groups of characters like kat&ana or the koopalings and you immediatly know that they belong together,they even have similar abilities in their games.
But that isn't the case with saturos and menardi,they look quite different and have different power(even though both are mars adepts)
so yeah in the end they are too good characters to be assist trophys,even though I could imagine saturos alone as an assist trophy.



Author:   AgatioGanon
Date:   Sep 26, 12 at 9:34am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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I always thought Saturos and Menardi were an item, like Isaac and Jenna.

Even if Saturos was a assist trophy without Menardi, although I love Menardi, I'd still be satisfied because I love Saturos, in fact I like him as a Golden Sun villian better than Alex.

What about Jenna?

What's her chances of being a assist trophy?

Could Golden Sun have two assist trophies?

I think so because I would like to see more Mario and Zelda assist trophies since those two series do have alot of characters they could at least include as assist trophies such as the Koopalings.

Then some of the not so big Nintendo series like Golden Sun could have more characters for us to see in Super Smash Bros.

I like the Koopaling idea

What about Zora, Goron and Gerudo?

They could put Ruto in as the Zora, Darunia in as the Goron and Nabooru in as the Gerudo

Would these three be good Zelda assist trophies?



Author:   BlueLore
Date:   Sep 26, 12 at 2:02pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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I think Golden sun will get only one human assist trophy,since it isn't such a big series.
But I could imagine one of the summons to be an assist trophys,because the assist trophys are similar to summons themselves.



Author:   AgatioGanon
Date:   Sep 26, 12 at 7:00pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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In that case I'll take Saturos over Jenna

Saturos is just down right awesome

I'd rather have the Golden Sun summons be a totally different item altogether with a pokeball mechanic, that way they could just put all the summons in instead of just one, make it more interesting.

Is Waluigi going to still be a assist trophy?

Could they add Daisy as a assist trophy?



Author:   BlueLore
Date:   Sep 27, 12 at 5:27am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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summons being an independent item would be cool,but I don't tink it'll happen,since the golden sun series isn't that big.
Waluigi will probably remain as an assist trophy if he doesn't become a character(I don't think he will,but we can't be sure)
And I doubt daisy could be an assist trophy,I mean what would she do?
She never fought in any game and she looks too similar to peach in her daisy-coloured outfit(which will most likely return or may even be changed into a complete daisy-costume)



Author:   AgatioGanon
Date:   Sep 27, 12 at 11:55am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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I'd still rather have one of the main characters from Golden Sun, like Saturos and Jenna as a assist trophy because they are important characters to the series for example

Saturos is a end boss to the first game and he's remembered for the fight against him at Mercury Lighthouse and being the best end boss in Golden Sun history as of yet, but most of all everyone who played Golden Sun knows Saturos as a cool villian.

Jenna would be considered more important than a summon too because she plays a very important role helping Isaac save the world.

I really don't see them putting any of the summons as assist trophies and reason is because characters such as Jenna or Saturos would be better choices because of what role they play to the series.

Acually I don't care which one they put in, I like both Jenna and Saturos.

Who has a better chance of being a assist trophy, Jenna or Saturos?

Daisy is one of my favorate Mario characters, just thought I'd ask

How about Cynthia from Pokemon?

She could send out her Lucario, Garchomp and Spiritomb and use her own version of Triple Threat were Lucario uses Aura Sphere, Garchomp uses Dragon Rush and Spiritomb uses Dark Pulse.

They could also have Cynthia's Lucario use Aura Storm since that was his final smash Brawl and it would be a cool way to keep the move around.



Author:   BlueLore
Date:   Sep 27, 12 at 12:47pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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But assist trophys don't always follow that logic.
The mario series has Waluigi,Lakitu and the hammer bro as assist trophys and while waluigi makes sense,there is basically nor real reason why they should have included the hammer bro and the lakitu instead of bowser jr.

Assist trophys are seemingly chosen not by their importance,but also by how they could act in gameplay or represent the series as a whole.



Author:   Gotenks
Date:   Sep 27, 12 at 5:13pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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The Hammer Bros. kind of make sense as an Assist Trophy imo. They were always enemies on the map in Super Mario Bros. 3 or New Super Mario Bros. so that made them feel like they were a bit more important than other enemies like the Goomba or Koopa Troopa. At least for me that's why it makes sense to me.

Not sure about Lakitu though. It might just be because anyone who has played the original Super Mario Bros., knows how annoying Lakitu can be. xD

I'd be fine with keeping Waluigi as an Assist Trophy. I've never been a fan of Waluigi so I'm not that high on having him as an actual character. At least if he remains an Assist Trophy then I won't mind as much.




Author:   AgatioGanon
Date:   Sep 27, 12 at 10:21pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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I agree, Gotenks.

The Hammer Bros are a very important enemy in the Mario series, there are even many different types of them like:

Hammer Bros ( iconic originals )

Fire Bros

Sledge Bros

Amazing Flying Hammer Bros

Chargin Chucks ( they look like recycled Hammer Bros to me )

Another thing that could iconic about Hammer Bros. is in world 8 in the NES Super Mario Bros, these guys were the most fustrating enemys in that game and that makes them remeberable.

As for Lakitu's importance, Gotenks I'm sure you played Mario Kart before, good series right?

Does Lakitu not play a important role the Mario Kart series, especially Mario Kart 7 when he's acually playable?

As for Bowser Jr, I think he definately will become a assist trophy in Super Smash Bros 4, in fact he might have more of a chance than the Koopalings unless they find a way to have all seven of then attack at the same time.



Author:   BlueLore
Date:   Sep 28, 12 at 4:07am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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but you can't really say that the hammer bros are more iconic than koopas or goombas themselves,they are well known enemies(like the lakitu),but that goes for nearly every recurring mario enemy.
Also the lakitu being playable in mario kart 7 doesn't have anything to do with his appearance in brawl since mk7 came out much later.

Another example is knuckle joe,who is a regular and not even very well known enemy from the kirby games.
In fact many people still don't know that he is just a regular enemy and think he is an individual character.

It is also similar to jeff from earthbound,he isn't as important as some other earthbound characters,like paula or even giygas,but he still is an assist trophy simply because of gameplay reasons.

similar to that the starfox assist trophy is actually the fake andross from the original game,but well brawl treats this fake andross as if it were the real one,so it can be overlooked in this case

bowser jr.has in my opinion better chances as a character than as an assist trophy,since his debut,he appears in most main games(only 3dland and nsmb2 are exceptions).



Author:   Gotenks
Date:   Sep 28, 12 at 5:59am (PST)
Subject:   re: Assist Trophies
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quote GaTheZakk
As for Lakitu's importance, Gotenks I'm sure you played Mario Kart before, good series right?

Does Lakitu not play a important role the Mario Kart series, especially Mario Kart 7 when he's acually playable?
Him being playable doesn't really mean much tbh. Just because Koopa has been playable in a few Mario Kart games and Goomba is playable in the Baseball games...yeah tell me how that works. xD

But you made me realize the importance of Lakitu and that is Lakitu is usually the character always holding the camera in some of the Mario games. Super Mario 64 is the perfect example. They use Lakitu as the cameraman and I believe he waves the flag in every Mario Kart game so there's his importance, alongside being a pain in the arse in Super Mario Brothers when he throws the Spinies.

Thanks for the reminder.



quote BlueLore
but you can't really say that the hammer bros are more iconic than koopas or goombas themselves,they are well known enemies(like the lakitu),but that goes for nearly every recurring mario enemy.
Eh, it could be argued in a way but I also really like the Hammer Bros. enemy so I would be going into the argument as a Hammer Bros. fanboy.

But when I think of the Mario series in terms of enemies, I think Bowser, Hammer Bros, Goombas, Boo, Koopa Troopas, and Chain Chomp.


quote BlueLore
bowser jr.has in my opinion better chances as a character than as an assist trophy,since his debut,he appears in most main games(only 3dland and nsmb2 are exceptions).
I was surprised he wasn't in Brawl as an Assist Trophy tbh. But a lot of people want him as a character as well. Which I wouldn't be opposed to. As long as he wasn't a Bowser clone.


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