Author: Michael Molina
Date: Mar 20, 05 2:20pm (PT)
Subject: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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Well I have just got back into this game to
improve on some of my flight training in the
game.And since yesterday I have pondered on
some ideas I would like for another Aero Elite.
So here is what I would like to see.
TRAINING MISSIONS.Have a couple of mid-air refuelings that require you
to practice using both boom and from the buddy pack
drouge line.(just like in AECA)not only would get to
refuel from a KC-135,but also include the KC-10,and
the KC-130.
A take-off and landing mission where you would say take
off from one island air base fly out to another,and land
within a certain time limit.If you reach the other base
within the allotted time,you'd be given the task of
taxining over to a certain location,refuel your plane,
and then take-off and fly back to the base you started
off from.Include this in advance training.
Include caro plane operations training where you can
be trained on deliverying caro such as vehicles,supplies,
and personnel from one location to another.
Practice parachute air drops onto a location,maybe
include paratroops as well.
More weapons training in both air-to-air,air-to-ground,
and this time include the ability to fire anti-ship
missiles like the Harpoon and ASM-2.
Carrier training that requires you to start off in the
T-45 Goshawk,and then advance to the F/A-18C.Also in
more advance carrier training,have where you take-off
from a naval air station and have to fly out to the carrier.
The T-45 would be available to play in free flight as well.
Include not only training for attack helicopters,but also
include transport types like the CH-53E and EH-101.
COMBAT MISSIONS.Once you've completed all flight training(basic,primary,
ACM,ect)you would then be tasked for duty and put into
a real world type conflict.Here is where you will put
all that you have learned in all of your flight training
to the test.This mode should be used to replace the arcade
mode that really wasn't all that great.Here in the Combat
Mode,you will engage in both air-to-air,air-to-ground,and
anti-ship missions.
Take part in close air support,fleet air defense,escort,
cargo transport of vehicles,supplies,and maybe even ground
troops,and whateve other type of mission possible.
Have battles that would be intense,especially in the air.
Not on the scale of Ace Combat,but where you dont just
shoot down two enemy planes,or a few ground targets,but
enough to make it fun and realistic.
Include unarmed photo recon missions.
Earn medals for your performace in battle,maybe even
include medals in the training mode as well.Even have
it where you can earn rank.
How about having a few missions that take place at sea.
Fly air defense for your battle group,and fly a mission
or two that may require you take-off from your carrier,
do a mission,and then return back for a landing.
Even have where on some missions,you may be required to
return to base to rearm.You may also be tasked at doing
some refueling both returning to base,and heading back
into battle.
AERO MEET.I'd like to have this option again,but the challenges
a bit more challenging and a wide variety.
SCRAMBLE ALERTS.Yes!,Yes!,and Yes! to having this again.Have some scrambles
that could turn out alot more hostile than in AECA.
For example,you'd fly out to intercept a unknown target
and either do a photo/warning,or warning shot only.But
then like before you are cleared to engage once it becomes
clear the unknown is hostile.After shooting down the first,
you could say get a warning to quickly return to base to
refuel and rearm,then head back to deal with another air
or even a threat from sea or on the ground.Well its a thought.
AIRCRAFT.Okay,I would not only like to see again the same ones
in the pervious game,but include these as well.
FIXED WING TYPES.F/A-22.
F-35(All varients)
F-117A.
F/A-18E/F.
Eurofighter Typhoon.
Rafale M for carrier use,and the C/D for AirForce.
Super Etendard.
Mig-31.
Su-30/33.Include the naval varient.
C-130J.
C-17A.
An-70.
JAS-39 Gripen.
JA-37 Viggen.
ROTORY WING TYPES.AH-1Z.
V-22 Osprey.
CH-53E.
EH-101.
AS 665 Tiger.
Mi-28 Havoc.
Ka-50/52.
CH-47E/F.
Well that's all for now,but these are some of the
ideas I have at this time.
This message was edited by Michael Molina on Mar 20 2005.
Author: Raijin1999
Date: Mar 21, 05 11:56pm (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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Fix the rudders. They don't do jack when in plane/jet. Also, get rid of the cruddy dreamcast shade filter.
Then, put in an online mode at least. All of the above sounds good too.
Splitscreen co-op instant action missions would be good too. Playing head to head on the sea level gets old quick.
Author: Michael Molina
Date: Mar 22, 05 5:12pm (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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A variety of two-player map locations is for
sure needed.I agree that playing on the same
and olny map for head-to-head does indeed get
quite boaring.
Online capability.....Yes.
Rudders to need to be fixed,though they work,they
dont work as good as they should.And when trying
to correct your heading using them,they are very
sluggish.
Author: Flogger23m
Date: Mar 22, 05 8:35pm (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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What really needs to be in the next AECA are complex missions that you need to use what you learned during your training. After spending all the time in the AH-1 staying low to aviod SAMs and AA in the Rotary Wing Combat Mission, you never even get a chance to accutally use it.
Better mutliplayer, more planes, online are some other things. Like add more Flankers, F-16s, ect.

AECA was a good game, but could have been much better if the Arcade Mod was removed and something else was put in. Because you can only choose 4 planes, and you only get AIM-9s for WVR combat. So all of your training has gone to waste becuase it is now just about shooting.
The Graphics were good in AECA, but the next game should have better grapihcs. It should be releaed on the PS3 or Xbox 2 because it won't be out in time for the PS2.

I really do hope that we get another AECA game, it would be great as well with another AFDS game.

Author: Michael Molina
Date: Mar 23, 05 7:31am (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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Also,if you're going to include guided missile
destroyers like the Sovremnny's in AECA,they're
guns are the only defenses that fire at you.
They do have SAMs on board.....they should use them.
As for removing the Arcade mode,that's why I suggested
a combat mode.After going through all of the rigerous
training missions,you are then given the opportunity to
put all your skills to the test.A sort of campaign mode
that would include a variety of combat senarioes that
include all those things I mentioned in the opening of
this thread.
Also in the free flight mode,when you choose either
dogfight or ground attack,you should have more than
two enemy aircraft to deal with,and there should also
be enemy aircraft available to engage when doing ground
attacks.At least the option to choose air opisition.
Online capability should be avaiable for those who are
dying to play.Also a much better head-to-head and two
player capability where you can either fight against
a friend,or co-op together in combat.
This message was edited by Michael Molina on Mar 24 2005.
Author: Raijin1999
Date: Mar 24, 05 8:54am (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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Definitely. Having one player tackle ground forces while the other provides air cover, or both taking on a bit of both would add much replay value to it, instantly.
I'd also like to see custom emblems, like the Armored Core games let you create (basically pixel by pixel, color by color.), if not being able to edit the majority of the paintscheme of the craft as is. That would bring a whole level of customization to the online ace frontier.
Author: The Tank
Date: Jun 26, 05 1:58am (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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ONLINE PLAYAECA is a continuation of the Aerodancing series that started on Dreamcast. One of the Aerodancing games,Aerodancing i,had online play.

If they could get online play on Aerodancing i,they should be able to get it for AECA2.
Author: JC mobius
Date: Sep 25, 05 9:47am (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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I like all the ideas here.
Particularly the rudder issues. Would definitely like more
authority with them. Decreasing with increased speed.
The C-17 would be awesome to have in the game too.
Co-op missions online would be fantastic.
Imagine coming back to base for a formation landing too.
Too cool.
Author: Michael Molina
Date: Sep 28, 05 7:41pm (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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REARMING AND REUELING.I think it would be neat to have the ability
to rearm and refuel whether it be on a carrier
or air base.For instance,using East Island as
an example, upon landing say after a skirmish
with three enemy fighters and the possibilty of
more incursions,why not have a location marked
out at the base where you taxi your aircraft to
arm it,and another to refuel.
Then you take-off again and now you're ready to
deal with whatever other threats that may be
inbound.
Author: JC mobius
Date: Sep 29, 05 9:03am (PT)
Subject: re: Thoughts and Ideas for another AECA.
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Absolutely, Mike. Who says a scramble mission has to end
after you've shot down an incomming bomber. you could taxi
in and rearm and the scramble siren goes off while you're
rearming and refueling and off you go.
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