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Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 5:11am (PST)
Subject:   So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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Discuss.



Author:   ShadowCrystallux
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 8:13am (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote DC Sniper
Discuss.
Great topic starter .

Last I checked, you weren't even in ranked yet? You just wait. You're in for one hell of a shock there :/.



Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 10:02am (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote ShadowCrystallux
quote DC Sniper
Discuss.
Great topic starter .

Last I checked, you weren't even in ranked yet? You just wait. You're in for one hell of a shock there :/.
Level 24 and *puts shades on*

no one got the reference. My friend tells me he's in elo hell because he "did what the team needed" or some garbage- meaning he played support all the way down. NOT I. I SHALL BE THE GUIDING LIGHT THESE POOR SOULS NEED AND WILL VICTORIOUSLY HIT PLATINUM BEFORE THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP NEXT MONTH.

That, or Gold.



Author:   karrynx3
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 10:50am (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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Author:   Bass Ultra
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 11:46am (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote karrynx3
    It takes one to know one? That's how I see matchmaking works. If your unranked elo is crap, you're gna get crap players until you rack up some wins

Pretty sure they keep unranked and ranked separate.



Author:   A Wind Powered Moose
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 11:57am (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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Instalock ADC, top, or mid and carry your way out.

You can do it.



Author:   karrynx3
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 12:01pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote Bass Ultra
quote karrynx3
    It takes one to know one? That's how I see matchmaking works. If your unranked elo is crap, you're gna get crap players until you rack up some wins

Pretty sure they keep unranked and ranked separate.




Author:   Bass Ultra
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 12:20pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote karrynx3
quote Bass Ultra
quote karrynx3
    It takes one to know one? That's how I see matchmaking works. If your unranked elo is crap, you're gna get crap players until you rack up some wins

Pretty sure they keep unranked and ranked separate.
    The 'it takes one to know one' still would apply for ranked elo as well. You wouldn't be randomed with 1500 with 1200 unless your duo/premade 5 were around there, right?

You can troll all you want in normals and keep your shiny 2000 elo/not get paired up with the same morons.

...I think.



Author:   karrynx3
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 12:43pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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Author:   Lorx
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 2:03pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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Relevant facts: I have no clue why matchmaking does poorly so much. I sometimes get pubs that are decent, but within my usual group of friends I am legendary for being a troll magnet. If I'm playing, I get at least one troll or afk'er per game.



Author:   Inuyasha
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 3:57pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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More relevant facts:

- The loss of Elo over time is called "Elo Decay", in which if you don't play after 4 weeks it will bring your Elo down by 25 consecutively each week after. It will not drop you below 1400. This has happened to me twice now, and I can tell you playing Ranked 5's does not count as played Ranked Solo Que in the sense of stopping the decay.
- There is a rating system for normals, called MMR - Match Making Rating, runs along the same lines as the Elo system but a bit differently, you can calculate your MMR from some websites, but nothing that's 100% accurate.
- If your MMR is low even when you hit 30, you can play against high level 20's, in the same way if you Que with a level 5 and you're level 30, you'll run into ~20's also.




Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 5:14pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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- If your MMR is low even when you hit 30, you can play against high level 20's, in the same way if you Que with a level 5 and you're level 30, you'll run into ~20's also.
That's possibly inaccurate because of parties and how they factor into who you face.



Author:   Inuyasha
Date:   Sep 20, 12 at 5:41pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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A full 5 with one player not level 30, matchmaking will try its best to find a full 5 with one player not level 30 and equal skill, of course parties are going to change things, but if you were to duo Q with a lesser level, you will find lesser levels as your opponents also.



Author:   Chaosfire
Date:   Sep 24, 12 at 6:41pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote DC Sniper
quote ShadowCrystallux
quote DC Sniper
Discuss.
Great topic starter .

Last I checked, you weren't even in ranked yet? You just wait. You're in for one hell of a shock there :/.
Level 24 and *puts shades on*

no one got the reference.
Ffs man, There was 1 post before yours.



Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Sep 24, 12 at 6:50pm (PST)
Subject:   re: So many noobs, will matchmaking ever find true balance?
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quote Chaosfire
quote DC Sniper
quote ShadowCrystallux
quote DC Sniper
Discuss.
Great topic starter .

Last I checked, you weren't even in ranked yet? You just wait. You're in for one hell of a shock there :/.
Level 24 and *puts shades on*

no one got the reference.
Ffs man, There was 1 post before yours.
>implying anyone else is as active as the moderator here. Plus, no one has even mentioned it.


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