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Author:   Lorx
Date:   Oct 06, 12 at 5:18pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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I know they planned to, I'm not sure if it's actually happened yet or not, haven't seen the leaderboard for it on the site yet.



Author:   ShadowCrystallux
Date:   Oct 07, 12 at 9:09am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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I only punished 5/15 today. "They called me a noob" well suck it up princess. If noob is the only thing they're getting insulted by, they haven't experienced a more colourful language.



Author:   WakeCraterWind
Date:   Oct 07, 12 at 1:47pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote ShadowCrystallux
I only punished 5/15 today. "They called me a noob" well suck it up princess. If noob is the only thing they're getting insulted by, they haven't experienced a more colourful language.
Let me flip that on you.

Why can't the offenders suck it up, too? If an online video game is the only place where they feel safe enough to trash other people then they need to grow some balls and start putting down people who are in arm's length. If you're going to be a d*ck, at least be a respectable d*ck and be consistent.



Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Oct 07, 12 at 3:04pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote WakeCraterWind
quote ShadowCrystallux
I only punished 5/15 today. "They called me a noob" well suck it up princess. If noob is the only thing they're getting insulted by, they haven't experienced a more colourful language.
Let me flip that on you.

Why can't the offenders suck it up, too? If an online video game is the only place where they feel safe enough to trash other people then they need to grow some balls and start putting down people who are in arm's length. If you're going to be a d*ck, at least be a respectable d*ck and be consistent.
What are they sucking it up? They're the one getting mad at the other person for x reason. You failed that flip horribly. You don't tell someone trashtalking to "suck it up" when they're not the one whining about said trashtalking.



Author:   WakeCraterWind
Date:   Oct 07, 12 at 3:26pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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Suck up the fact that your team is losing, start acting like a leader your team needs to get yourselves back into the game and shut up about how bad everyone else in the world is and how poor, tragic you couldn't possibly carry this team of noobs, boo-hoo, I would be on team CLG if it weren't for Elo hell, boo-hoo, boo-hoo, boo-hoo.



That's all I hear from these guys. Some lucky kills, a good gank, and suddenly, they get all cocky and douchey, and they even act like they have a right to. As if they never fed or played badly in their entire lives. You might hear whining from the guys who reported these douche-nuggets, but I pity the fool who has to release his frustration by taking it out on people already going through stress.



Author:   ShadowCrystallux
Date:   Oct 07, 12 at 10:09pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote WakeCraterWind
quote ShadowCrystallux
I only punished 5/15 today. "They called me a noob" well suck it up princess. If noob is the only thing they're getting insulted by, they haven't experienced a more colourful language.
Let me flip that on you.

Why can't the offenders suck it up, too? If an online video game is the only place where they feel safe enough to trash other people then they need to grow some balls and start putting down people who are in arm's length. If you're going to be a d*ck, at least be a respectable d*ck and be consistent.
Still, if you're gonna get insulted by the term noob, then you're hyper sensitive. Sure, if they're saying noob every 2 seconds, it's gonna get annoying, in which case they deserve to be punished. But if they say it once, wow big deal.

Of those 15, one got 8 reports in one game alone. It was actually funny to deliberate on, but yes, this person got my punish vote.



Author:   WakeCraterWind
Date:   Oct 07, 12 at 11:51pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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Who would have thunk it? Being insulted by insults.



Author:   ShadowCrystallux
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 2:22am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote WakeCraterWind
Who would have thunk it? Being insulted by insults.
An insult that has been used by almost every gamer I know, including myself on rare occasion. If you haven't used it, then congrats, you're obviously the nicest person in the gaming world . Anyway, I don't just click punish if it's: A) very minor insults, almost banter style, B) 1 case of being a bit of a bitch (not full on), C) if someone was winding the case person up in the first place, they're only giving as good as the get, D) if intentional feeder is below negative 15 K/D or E) if it's just negative attitude and the case has barely said one negative word in the chat. People get so indignant these days "-_-. Saying that, I am a person who has learned to ignore idiots to an extent.



Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 11:08am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote WakeCraterWind
Suck up the fact that your team is losing, start acting like a leader your team needs to get yourselves back into the game and shut up about how bad everyone else in the world is and how poor, tragic you couldn't possibly carry this team of noobs, boo-hoo, I would be on team CLG if it weren't for Elo hell, boo-hoo, boo-hoo, boo-hoo.
Why? Many players don't enjoy losing because their shitty teammates don't know how to play at all. 1-15 is acceptable for noobs, but not 16-30, and 1200-1400 ELO. "Start acting like a leader" XD. Yeah, because it's easy to do that when your team is bitching and moaning. This is a team game, *bleep*wit, you can't carry 4 people like in Call of Duty (even then, it's not particularly easy to do).


That's all I hear from these guys. Some lucky kills, a good gank, and suddenly, they get all cocky and douchey, and they even act like they have a right to. As if they never fed or played badly in their entire lives. You might hear whining from the guys who reported these douche-nuggets, but I pity the fool who has to release his frustration by taking it out on people already going through stress.
People play games to have a good time. It's not having a good time when your team is *bleep*ing around in the spawning pool, being retarded as *bleep* in just about everything. Yeah, the whiny people that got butthurt and reported the player that WAS carrying their team with 20/4/10, WAS winning, WAS doing all the work, WAS TRYING TO WIN, and was incredibly angry that his teammates (who build stupid shit like adc Teemo) weren't doing *bleep* all. The problem is little douchebags (like you) don't give a shit. You don't care if you win or lose, you just want to *bleep* around and piss people off that are trying to have fun (read: win). In those games in that report I was trolled to hell and back for trying to win and we lost 3 or 4/5 of those games. In Call of Duty, I can understand that philosophy of just having fun through killing people. Games are 5-20 minutes in length, and MVPs are commonly carrying the team in Search and Destroy anyway. But this isn't Call of Duty. You should be doing an ARAM or be in a custom game if you want to *bleep* around. Blind pick, draft, and ranked games are 20-60 minutes and it's wasted time for 60 IP and a loss.

Jesus the people (in 1/5 of the games) in my Tribunal case bitched about everything. I made Xin go bot and I solo'd top, we won both lanes, and the game but still got like 3 reports for taking his lanewinning and saving us the loss.

In another game in that case, this Kha'zix was bitching at me for telling him he was afk at the spawning pool (apparently it takes 5+ minutes to 'figure out a set"). When earlygame is ending and towers are falling, wasting time thinking of a set is the last thing you should be doing but apparently this guy is the expert here. We lost that game, because his party of 3 premades didn't give a *bleep* (also got 3 reports that game, how convenient).

The community is shit, so Riot tries to circumvent that by giving the community the power to punish the members of their community. The problem is that the entire community is shit, so really they've given the shitty members of their community power with an incentive to use it (read: punish spam) for "Influence" points.



Author:   Tashur Astur
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 1:37pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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I don't see the problem in running adc Teemo.. Teemo is cute no matter how you run him, and you always want to kill him. Not matter what.



Author:   Lorx
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 4:13pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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DC Sniper, chill.

This is all just assumptions based on your post, and what I can extract from what you've said for what you may have been reported for;

Not cooperative with team: Unconventional lanes and fun builds are great, but they're something to talk with your team about beforehand, and ask. At the end of the day LoL is a competitive game, and reports will reflect that. In champ select you have to step up and say "I want to do X, do you guys mind?", if you want to just do it and not need to worry about pubs not being on-board, play 5man.

Hostile Attitude, Verbal Abuse, Harassment: (Khazix game) Yeah, camping on spawn for five minutes, not good. Should probably have reported him unless you sympathized for whatever plight he had. Not really an excuse to go off a wall in chat though.

Tartar Ashtur, Tank Teemo! Gotta abuse that global taunt passive <:



Author:   WakeCraterWind
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 4:48pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote ShadowCrystallux
quote WakeCraterWind
Who would have thunk it? Being insulted by insults.
An insult that has been used by almost every gamer I know, including myself on rare occasion. If you haven't used it, then congrats, you're obviously the nicest person in the gaming world . Anyway, I don't just click punish if it's: A) very minor insults, almost banter style, B) 1 case of being a bit of a bitch (not full on), C) if someone was winding the case person up in the first place, they're only giving as good as the get, D) if intentional feeder is below negative 15 K/D or E) if it's just negative attitude and the case has barely said one negative word in the chat. People get so indignant these days "-_-. Saying that, I am a person who has learned to ignore idiots to an extent.
Hey, I know about thick skin man. You should (or shouldn't) check out the Thinker's Lounge. 9/10 I join a conversation someone takes it upon themself to call me a bigot and crazy.

And actually... I have never called someone a noob. I'm being serious. The worst I've ever said is "that was dumb" whenever one of my teammates royally screw up. Even then, I deflect it to what they did, not who they are. I've never even responded to anyone in kind. Does this make me the nicest person in the gaming world?
Anyhow, at the end of the day, an insult is still an insult, and hate is still hate, no matter what happened. We're not delivering poetic justice here, we're seeing who breaks the summoner's code. That's why I'm so hard on people in Tribunal. They knew the rules, and they broke them.

quote DC Sniper
People play games to have a good time. It's not having a good time when your team is *bleep*ing around in the spawning pool, being retarded as *bleep* in just about everything. Yeah, the whiny people that got butthurt and reported the player that WAS carrying their team with 20/4/10, WAS winning, WAS doing all the work, WAS TRYING TO WIN, and was incredibly angry that his teammates (who build stupid shit like adc Teemo) weren't doing *bleep* all. The problem is little douchebags (like you) don't give a shit. You don't care if you win or lose, you just want to *bleep* around and piss people off that are trying to have fun (read: win). In those games in that report I was trolled to hell and back for trying to win and we lost 3 or 4/5 of those games. In Call of Duty, I can understand that philosophy of just having fun through killing people. Games are 5-20 minutes in length, and MVPs are commonly carrying the team in Search and Destroy anyway. But this isn't Call of Duty. You should be doing an ARAM or be in a custom game if you want to *bleep* around. Blind pick, draft, and ranked games are 20-60 minutes and it's wasted time for 60 IP and a loss.
Jesus, bro, you're going to have a corollary at age 30 if you keep this up. You sure you want to play League if it winds you up this much? I can understand if you get sh*t games, I mean, we all do, but the difference is, how you handle it. Do you fly off the handle and get yourself reported in the process, or do you act like the grown-up adult you are and control yourself? The rules are clear, man. You don't get a free pass to join them if your team acted like a pack of whiny b*tches.



Also... did you just call me a little douchebag? I didn't insult you, man. Learn to control your anger.



Author:   Grimdark
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 6:15pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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quote WakeCraterWind
Jesus, bro, you're going to have a corollary at age 30 if you keep this up. You sure you want to play League if it winds you up this much? I can understand if you get sh*t games, I mean, we all do, but the difference is, how you handle it. Do you fly off the handle and get yourself reported in the process, or do you act like the grown-up adult you are and control yourself? The rules are clear, man. You don't get a free pass to join them if your team acted like a pack of whiny b*tches.

Also... did you just call me a little douchebag? I didn't insult you, man. Learn to control your anger.
You know funnily enough I wasn't even remotely angry when I typed that post. I don't fly off the handle, I do what's necessary to win and far too often, people aren't willing to do what it takes.
quote Lorx
DC Sniper, chill.
You can stop with this bit now.
Not cooperative with team: Unconventional lanes and fun builds are great, but they're something to talk with your team about beforehand, and ask. At the end of the day LoL is a competitive game, and reports will reflect that. In champ select you have to step up and say "I want to do X, do you guys mind?", if you want to just do it and not need to worry about pubs not being on-board, play 5man.
So suddenly I have to play babysitter and ask in a ranked match what 4 people are doing build-wise in 90 seconds? More often than not people lock in, "call" a lane, and go afk until the game starts. I'm not following what you're blabbering on about with 5man, that's all I play.
Hostile Attitude, Verbal Abuse, Harassment: (Khazix game) Yeah, camping on spawn for five minutes, not good. Should probably have reported him unless you sympathized for whatever plight he had. Not really an excuse to go off a wall in chat though.
I obviously reported him, but when did I say I went off a wall? Learn to read and stop assuming things.
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We lost that game, because his party of 3 premades didn't give a *bleep*
quote Tashur Astur
I don't see the problem in running adc Teemo.. Teemo is cute no matter how you run him, and you always want to kill him. Not matter what.
Considering his mushrooms scale with AP and can easily do 1000 damage late-endgame, are placed around every 17-20 seconds, and helps Blinding dart/Poison, it's kind of a big deal.
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Teemo is cute no matter how you run him
Good thing that wasn't relevant to why I said adc Teemo was a bad idea.



Author:   Lorx
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 6:47pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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Mad or no DC Sniper, your tone in this thread is not acceptable, change it.
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Conduct expected whilst you are on Neoforums falls along the lines of common sense etiquette/nettiquette. When you go out of your way to be annoying, you can expect to be warned or banned. In general, we ask you to refrain from irritating behaviors such as flaming, trolling, and spamming. Furthermore, please do not attempt to distribute or discuss any illegal software or counterfeit merchandise.
5man as in, 4 friends, no pubs. The people you don't have to "babysit" in champ select because you have the option of discussing things with them beforehand. Because yeah, if you're with pubs, you should be communicating what you're doing, especially if you're going against the grain. This is exactly why the Uncooperative report options exist. As you've said, this is a team game, to win, you should be attempting to work with your team, instead of writing them all off as not worth communicating to in the first five seconds.

As the part of my post you didn't quote state, I was assuming because I have no solid information on your bans, I'm no Riot employee, nor have you posted your records. I only know what I've seen, and getting banned because somebody else went afk, is not a real thing. Hence the conclusion that you went off in chat because he was afk. That could be wrong, maybe you did something else, but I'm fairly certain KZ being afk is not the reason why you got reported.

ADC Teemo is...eh, it used to be used for backdooring towers, but really fell out of favor as newer champions got released that could either do it better or punish him harder for trying. It's strength is that he gets a lot of utility and options for avoiding combat. Shroom up entrances as makeshift wards, when you spot an enemy hit your movespeed buff, book it to an suspicious corner, use your passive to wait out the enemy, then reshroom and continue pushing. tbh AP/AS Teemo is better at it, but I still see some ADC Teemos and while not amazing, it does function at the end of the day. Certainly nothing I would pick in a serious match though.



Author:   WakeCraterWind
Date:   Oct 08, 12 at 9:06pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Tribunal
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Well the entire reason builds are unconventional is that they often need cooperation and some specific enemy comp to function as effectively. I can AP Yi well, for example, but he needs a lot of communication and a little bit of the stars to align in the draft pick for him to function. AP Yi also benefits a lot from a AoE team comp, and often mass-disablers like Morgana, Malphite, and Amumu, to really shine in teamfights.

Thus, communication is essential in the pre90 seconds. If I pick AP Yi, and the rest of my team is running a poke comp, I just f***ed them and myself over by not communicating.

quote DC Sniper
but still got like 3 reports for taking his lanewinning and saving us the loss.
Far be it from me to judge when I don't know what happened, but seems to me like you were more likely reported for being insufferable or uncooperative, not your skill level or how well you carried. I mean, 20/4/10 is great, but not good enough to get you out of a ban.


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