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Author:   Mario Legend
Date:   Feb 28, 10 at 7:08pm (PST)
Subject:   Even worse or improved?
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Preferably I hated they game it was too perverted and off putting. It may have blood but that's not just what a game needs.



Author:   Duncan Idaho
Date:   Mar 01, 10 at 1:00am (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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quote mario legend
Preferably I hated they game it was too perverted and off putting. It may have blood but that's not just what a game needs.
it toppled the original by a lot in history, and in gamepaly, but in lenghts its a scam, you wotn be facign a ton of assasns,a nd many promises were broke, Ex: club nintendo published on one of its past editiosn that there was gonna be a figth againts 5 assasins, the only multi assasin figth, is a lower rank (as in 7 or 6th rnak)and its not what i was expecting, you play with shinobu twice, and henry once.



Author:   Mario Legend
Date:   Mar 01, 10 at 3:19am (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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quote Duncan Idaho
quote mario legend
Preferably I hated they game it was too perverted and off putting. It may have blood but that's not just what a game needs.
it toppled the original by a lot in history, and in gamepaly, but in lenghts its a scam, you wotn be facign a ton of assasns,a nd many promises were broke, Ex: club nintendo published on one of its past editiosn that there was gonna be a figth againts 5 assasins, the only multi assasin figth, is a lower rank (as in 7 or 6th rnak)and its not what i was expecting, you play with shinobu twice, and henry once.
Nintendo has broken MANY promises too the public.





Author:   Duncan Idaho
Date:   Mar 01, 10 at 4:09pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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this was Suda who borke the promise, he had power of all the project all along, and ims till trying to breaktrough his plot, it seems a set up of revenge, but there is something else under it, like in killer7, his previous work to NMHm its a good title.



Author:   Mikstaslaya
Date:   Mar 19, 10 at 8:52pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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No More Heroes 2 is far better. Polish, features, and overall package wise. They never made a promise of 51 boss fights, they simply stated you would start at rank 51 and fight more bosses in this game than you did in the first game which was true seeing as there are a total of 15 boss fights in this game (including Kimmy) and only 10 (including Henry) in the first game.

The game has been vastly improved for a multitude of reasons:
Keeping in mind the multitude of improvements above, I have to say No More Heroes 2 is far, far better with literally no contest (at least in my opinion).



Author:   veyron259
Date:   May 02, 10 at 2:33am (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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Much better than the original. Suda listened to his fans of the first game and amended various changes in the game such as the GTA style of having to physically walk everywhere. The games battle sequences and combat system are improved and the game is much more challenging in general.



Author:   SirMunk
Date:   Jun 18, 10 at 4:15pm (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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i dislike NMH2
worse looking graphics in my opinion
to much pervy-ness
i miss being able to walk or drive the motorcycle
the gym is ran by a gay dude now
not as funny as NMH, to serious besides the pervy-ness




Author:   Ari
Date:   Jun 23, 10 at 11:21am (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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I feel that No More Heroes 2 took several steps forward, only to take several steps backwards as well. It was better that the first No More Heroes, but it's not all it could have been.
Some of the things that held it back include...
-The game's camera. Most of the time, I feel like I'm fighting with the camera instead of with my enemies. I can always snap it to where Travis is facing with the C button, but I feel like I have to do that every time I change directions.
-The platforming missions. Honestly, I just wish they left these out; I get that Shinobu's a ninja and all that, but the camera and controls just aren't suited for a platforming setup. When you combine it with cheap boss battles, it becomes downright aggravating.
-Speaking of Shinobu, it seems that her character did a complete 180 in this game; now she's no longer the silent, yet terrifyingly awesome badass that she was in No More Heroes 1; they turned her into a fangirl. I find The NMH2 version of her repulsive. Also, it seems she wasn't necessary to the story at all; if not for them promising you could play as Shinobu and Henry, they might have just left her out all together.
-Doing the mini-games for cash is nice, but I miss NMH1's assassination side-missions; they paid well and were a welcome change from the normal side-jobs. NMH2 has revenge missions (which I just discovered on my second playthrough yesterday), but they don't give you any sort of monetary reward at the end for your performance. 8 or 9 missions in, they haven't given me anything.
-It feels as if this game's bosses recycle a variety of archetypes used from NMH1's bosses. We have the male musicians smothered by prostitutes (Death Metal and Nathan Copeland), the two men with the golden guns (Doctor Peace and Million Gunman), the swordsmen who can summon dragons out of the energy of their blades (Dark Star and Ryuji), the women that subtly hint at strange fetishes (Bad Girl and Cloe Walsh), etc.
-Lastly, the main story could have definitely used some work. Killing Travis' best friend was...inventive, I suppose, but the execution of it was weak.

I could make a list of all the positives, but Mikstaslaya seems to have done a good enough job.



Author:   Goldendriger17
Date:   Sep 28, 11 at 12:51am (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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Uhhh...Hard to say. I like it, but not as much. A- *bleep* those gun enemies, B- *bleep* those chainsaw guys, waste of time, C- *bleep* those minigames, in NMH1 at least they made use of the Wii controls rather than just an 8 bit game, D- *bleep* the level up system, Seriously i spent 50,000 trying to get a strength upgrade but i couldnt and that was about 3 levels before the end and E- *bleep* Jasper Batt Jr.
Good points-
More bosses
More combos
Pressing "B" Is now useful
switching weapons
Different characters (Although Shinobu's platforming was HORRIBLE)
EXCELLENT Music, seriously i put some of those on my Ipod
Great jokes and character dialog
7th ranked battle (What a twist...)

That being said, i prefer NMH1 (Although i played them back to back) NMH2 Could be better if-
*bleep* THAT GYM! Basically fix this
Not so many gun enemies, take out the giant guys, too much HP but are easily stuned so it's pointless.
Take out Jasper Batt Jr's Hadoken thing

Fix that and id say you have the perfect NMH game...maybe tweak Shinobu so her Platforming isnt ungodly bad (Seriously anyone else spend 25 minutes in that room trying to smash those laser controls?)



Author:   g1rldraco7
Date:   Dec 07, 11 at 4:28am (PST)
Subject:   re: Even worse or improved?
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I'll admit alot of stuff they went too far in the humor and gore. I ate the fact you ant drive around like the first one. Still the story is good.


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