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Author:   kspiess
Date:   Aug 13, 09 at 4:29am (PST)
Subject:   AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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AMD released a new CPU tonight. We take a look!

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Author:   Basco
Date:   Aug 15, 09 at 6:45am (PST)
Subject:   AMD Phenom II X4 965
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well AMD seems to surprise us each time with its products,the last one being AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition,i cannot but say u've done the work right u guys at AMD,keep on the hard work,thats what we gamers/PC nuts loves to see.
P.S. Intel should lower down its motherboards prices to compete with AMD's best.



Author:   Player1
Date:   Aug 15, 09 at 7:00am (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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quote Basco
P.S. Intel should lower down its motherboards prices to compete with AMD's best.
Pfft...Intel doesn't need to lower their prices to compete with AMD.

AMD needs to raise their prices to compete with Intel



Author:   771l9
Date:   Aug 15, 09 at 8:28am (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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AMD owns intel on low-mid range, I'd never buy intel unless I'm getting the i7, even then this CPU would probably outperform the i7 920, even more so when overclocked. The only thing I'd worry about is the ability to upgrade later to Phenom III or whatever. Its also harder to find quality amd boards vs intel boards especially if you want tri-sli/crossfire. If only amd had better notebook processors then they could compete.



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Aug 15, 09 at 9:00am (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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AMD owns intel on low-mid range
intel is slowly worming their way into the low and mid range territory. ive seen several core2 duos and quads that have beaten their AMD equivalents in price. for the time being though, AMD is cheapest in that area.

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If only amd had better notebook processors then they could compete.
the reason why AMD doesnt have many mobile processors is because of their power consumption. in general, AMD processors can use up to twice as much power as the equivalent intel processor, and this is what makes them really unpopular amongst the laptop brands.



Author:   do
Date:   Dec 29, 09 at 3:28pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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If only amd had better notebook processors then they could compete.
the reason why AMD doesnt have many mobile processors is because of their power consumption. in general, AMD processors can use up to twice as much power as the equivalent intel processor, and this is what makes them really unpopular amongst the laptop brands.
maybe theres an agreement between them..
i mean intel for notebook and AMD well known for PC



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Dec 29, 09 at 3:46pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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uhhh, no. they are both well known for the PC, but intel is more commonly found on laptops. AMD is starting to get further into the laptop section now though.

and by the way, this is an old thread.



Author:   Nu Wa Rocks
Date:   Dec 29, 09 at 7:21pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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quote hiigaran
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If only amd had better notebook processors then they could compete.
the reason why AMD doesnt have many mobile processors is because of their power consumption. in general, AMD processors can use up to twice as much power as the equivalent intel processor, and this is what makes them really unpopular amongst the laptop brands.
This isn't a true or correct response. AMD is constantly trying to compete with Intel and their power consumption does not double that of an equivalent Intel CPU.

Here is a graph showing a i7 920 power consumption as compared to a Phenom II X4 940 (these 2 should be comparable, however the Intel is a higher end CPU over the AMD, as well as a newer CPU).

Links to these images: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-phenom-ii,2119-9.html





AMD made the stupid mistake of not seeing revenue and profits in the netbooks thinking it was a fad. Because of this they never truly developed a CPU similar to the Atom. If they had gotten in early, netbooks would most definitely be cheaper as we see a trend of AMD CPUs being much cheaper than Intel.

Just because AMD CPUs run slightly hotter than Intel doesn't mean they pack double the power. Lots of factors goes into heat production.



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Dec 29, 09 at 7:39pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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i did make that reply almost 5 months ago, remember that

actually, while looking at your graphs, i dont understand why those two processors with those different speeds were compared.



Author:   Nu Wa Rocks
Date:   Dec 29, 09 at 8:39pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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quote hiigaran
i did make that reply almost 5 months ago, remember that

actually, while looking at your graphs, i dont understand why those two processors with those different speeds were compared.
Yeah, but the Phenom II X4 and Core i7 920 has been out for a long time as well. Also, the speed they tested it at might be the stable over clock speed for each CPU.



Author:   Kosor
Date:   Jan 07, 10 at 12:23pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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I have AMD® Phenom™ II x3 720 2.8GHz and it runs great.
i7 is better then amd x4.But x4 is more powerfull then any of others intel procesor and its very cheap when you look about i7 or i5.


AMD Black Edition - AMD Phenom II X4 3.2 GHz Processor
$159

Intel Core i5 2.66 GHz Processor
$186

Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz Processor
$276




Author:   Saransh Comsole
Date:   Jan 07, 10 at 12:32pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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advertising FAIL.

no links.

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Author:   Kosor
Date:   Jan 07, 10 at 1:05pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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quote Kosor




Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Jan 07, 10 at 3:04pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review - Motherboards & CPUs
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7 is better then amd x4.But x4 is more powerfull
what a major contradiction.

correction, the x4 is more power hungry. the i5 is about the same price as the 965, and beats the 965 by a decent amount.



Author:   Kosor
Date:   Jan 07, 10 at 5:29pm (PST)
Subject:   re: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition CPU Review
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AMD Black Edition - AMD Phenom II X4 3.4 GHz Processor 125 W

Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz Processor 140 W


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