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Author:   Kinetic
Date:   Dec 15, 12 at 11:37pm (PST)
Subject:   The Matrix - not so unrealistic after all?
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Techeye.net has posted an article a day or so ago that has got a lot of people buzzing. Let's take a look:

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US scientists are attempting to find out whether all of humanity is currently living a Matrix-style computer simulation being run on supercomputers of the future.

According to researchers at the University of Washington, there are tests that could be done to begin to work out whether we are in fact real, or merely a simulation created by a futuristic android on its lunch break.

Currently, computer simulations are decades away from creating even a primitive working model of the universe. In fact, scientists are able to accurately model only a 100 trillionth of a metre, with work to create a model of a full human being still out of reach.

By looking for underlying patterns, physicists believe that it may be possible to work out if we are existing in a computer created universe, created many years in the future. Looking at constraints imposed on simulations by limited resources could show signs that we are mere bit-part players in a Matrix-style film plot.

It will take many years to reach the computational power to give a real glimpse of whether we are living in a simulation, the scientists contend, but even by looking at the tiny portion of the universe that we can currently accurately model, it may be possible to detect 'signatures' of constraints on physical processes that could point to a simulation.

The researchers suggest that a signature could show up as a limitation in the energy of cosmic rays, for example. By testing the behaviour of cosmic rays on underlying 'lattice' frameworks governing rules of physics that could exist in future models of the universe, the researchers could find patterns that could point to a simulation.

“This is the first testable signature of such an idea,” one of the researchers, Martin Savage, said.

Aside from the rather mind-boggling proposition that we may be part of a computer simulation, another researcher pointed out that this would bring up the possibility of inter-universe computer platforms, and the potential to communicate across these.



A little overwhelming at first glance, I admit, but let's think about what these scientists are hypothesizing; that our world as we know it is in fact not "real," but instead we are all programs, a part of a computer simulation run by supercomputers from the future.

It is an interesting concept, most certainly. Even if these tests confirm what the scientists are seeking, what would it prove? Would the masses accept this? I don't think so, but it is most definitely interesting.


Any thoughts on this?




Author:   Wysiwyg
Date:   Dec 16, 12 at 5:46pm (PST)
Subject:   re: The Matrix - not so unrealistic after all?
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This sounds like a scientists excuse for seeking a form of 'god'. Dragging the whole 'The Matrix' aspect into it seems like a search for publicity.

However cool it would be to discover this hypothesis as truth, it is way too far-fetched.



Author:   Sion_Jade
Date:   Dec 17, 12 at 9:31am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Matrix - not so unrealistic after all?
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With the amount of computing power a true quantum computer would have, it's scarily plausible. Ive been researching quantum physics for a while, and even with a very primitive model simulations like these would happen. Just with the quantum equations we have been able to come up with with some fantastical information and theories.



Author:   TheSierraphoenix
Date:   Dec 21, 12 at 8:09am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Matrix - not so unrealistic after all?
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It sounds pretty interesting. But i think that the scientists refuse to believe that "god" could be out there or can't except the fact they can't prove "god's" existance .....FAIL!



Author:   Saul
Date:   Dec 22, 12 at 9:01am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Matrix - not so unrealistic after all?
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quote TheSierraphoenix
It sounds cool. But i think that the scientists refuse to believe that "god" could be out there or can't except the fact they can't prove "god's" existance so they came up with this in order to feel like they're proving the impossible .....FAIL!
The stupidity of your comment has left me speechless...



Author:   HunterKiller666
Date:   Jan 16, 13 at 7:34am (PST)
Subject:   re: The Matrix - not so unrealistic after all?
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And who's to say that the computer simulation they eventually manages to run would be valid enough to prove or disapprove the matrix theory? If it was made within the system chances are it will do what the system wants it to do.

My advise is that if some homeless guy presents you with a red pill and a blue pill on a street corner, it's in your best interest to just ignore him and walk away.


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