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Author:   volacide
Date:   Sep 1, 07 at 4:02am (PST)
Subject:   My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Alright so I've played up the 4th level which is the bridge level that IGN said that broke the game for them.

Let me start off with what I think of the game so far.

First, the visuals, the first two levels look alright, but the third and fourth really shine, I mean wow. This game looks fantastic. Best water effects I've seen yet on a PS3 game without a doubt.

Let's get onto the gameplay though, or more importantly the control of that gameplay. The game plays as I expected it to, like you're controlling a dragon.

People complain of how wide the turns are that the dragons make and such but that's how it always works with a large creature or plane. A jumbo jet can't maneuver like an F-16.

I don't know what they were expecting from Lair, a game based on flying a dragon, it's no X-Wing and I wouldn't expect it to fly as tightly as one either. So from that standpoint I think it flys just fine.

Next is the sixaxis control, if you don't like it already then you probably won't like it again here, that's probably mostly due to your handicap you give yourself that basically says you don't want to enjoy it because you don't want to have to learn something new, boo hoo.

That being said, the sixaxis controls work great, they're just sensitive enough without being too sensitive and flying the dragon around is pretty easy by the 3rd level.

The only moves that you might have trouble with are the dash moves, 180 degree move, and the side to side attack and dodge moves. These moves require you to instead of tilting the sixaxis, to move it laterally in that direction. It requires a very quick jerk and I mean quite quick in order to initiate the move but after a while you'll get the hang of it and it's probably for the better otherwise you'd be doing it on accident all the time.

Here's the biggest thing they complain about, the lock on. Now as I said, I've played through the bridge level they complained about where you have to pick up the beasts and rhinos from the bridge and I had zero trouble doing so. I don't know what it is but it simply wasn't a problem for me. I could definitely see how you could probably pretty easily get locked onto one of the other dragons flying around, as there are tons of them and there's always a lot of stuff happening on the screen, but the game was very good for me about locking onto what was mission critical, in this case, the rhinos and such. I had no problem holding down the R1 button and causing my dragon to swoop in and pick them up and then pressing triangle to very satisfyingly toss them hundreds of feet out into the ocean, complete with a nice splash and ripple.

So yeah, I just don't see what all the fuss is about, it controls kinda clunky, I guess maybe they were expecting X-Wing like controls from Factor 5 but we're flying a *bleep*ing dragon here, I can understand it.

Now onto the part where I really give my first impression.
The first level was kind of "bleh" to me, it just didn't do much for me, maybe it's because I'm not a big fan of the desert-y color palette, either way, I felt like I was losing because I didn't kill every single dragon but you soon realize that's not the point, you kill as many as you can within the time limit and as long as you kill a certain amount you basically get to proceed on. It's possible to kill them all if you're good and that's why this game needs multiple playthroughs of each level, so you can go back and kill them all faster and unlock extra combos and health increases and such. You can access any mission you've already played and play it whenever you want from the mission select screen which is very stylized and cool looking.

So yeah, I didn't enjoy the 1st and 2nd levels very much, that's probably because in both of these missions there were a bunch of on screen tips and shit that just really cluttered up my beautiful view. Finally, on the third level, the level where you have to take out the lighthouse I was treated to this beautiful ocean locale with some amazing lightning effects among other things. This is when the game really started to shine.

I was taking down other dragons, taking out the lights, etc all without the on screen tips anymore so I could see everything and it looked great and I just enjoyed it more without it seeing like a constant tutorial mode.

Here's the funny part, all the way from the beginning of the game I wasn't having that great a time, I mean it was alright, but meh so far until the 4th level with the bridge, the one everyone seems to hate. The 4th level was the first time I really enjoyed the game the most, I was smiling and saying things like "shit that was cool" to myself. How weird is it that for me, unlike everyone else, my favorite level so far is the one that everyone complained about?

I don't know, it was just a helluva lot of fun to me, It wasn't difficult and it looked amazing.

Here's a rant I have to go on real quick, to all the SIXAXIS haters, it's okay if you don't like it, but don't like it just because you suck at it or don't feel like you should have to learn how to use it. You need to play differently when using the SIXAXIS stuff I think, even going so far as to hold the controller differently. [i]When I play Lair and Flow I grip the controller very lightly, the controller is light already and instead of having a death grip on it that will cause my dragon/organism to go all over the place because of that twitchy grip I hold onto it lightly, relax, and just smooth out all my movements, it works fine then. Maybe you guys should figure out what works for you because I personally think you can't hold the controller the same way you would any other time in order to get good control out of it and I [i]don't
think that's a bad thing.

So here's the closing statement, if you were thinking about giving it a try, do give it a try, you might like it and not have any trouble. If you don't like the SIXAXIS stuff you probably won't like it here either so that's just going to be up to you. This game isn't the greatest ever or anything like that, I'd give it a solid B- or a C+, it could definitely be better but I think the official reviews so far have been way too hard on it. I mean it seems like all of these people haven't really tried to adapt to this new style of play, or they simply just don't even want to.

Author:   Existential
Date:   Sep 1, 07 at 5:36pm (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Thanks for the impressions. These reviews that I have read from critics sound like they are coming from frustrated children.

Author:   Sayyed
Date:   Sep 7, 07 at 12:52am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Thought I'd put mine here.
Okay Well I just bought lair and I just had to give my own review. Seeing as only two people on neo bought, some might need more reassurance.

To start off. *bleep* the reviews! This is not a 4.9 game!

Okay now to the the actual review part.

It starts of with you doing the tut. Wich is boring, but a necessity and helped you control the dragon better. The controls, a lot of people are hating the controls. But you know what I say, the controls felt like second nature. They work so well and and you have way more controle of your dragon then analog sticks. I can see why they chose it this way. And your dragon moves very well and it isn't extremely sensitive a.k.a motorstorm. I honestly think the controls so far and better then flying a warhawk with sixaxis. Given, I didn't do it to much but I tried it.

The controls do take a few minutes to learn.

I wanted to play all the way up to the bridge level. If you read gamestop and IGN there complaints started there. So I played through (the first few mission were decently fun) And got to the bridge level. One of there main complaint was trying to target the torus but they keep locking on to catapults. All I can say is during the whole time of that mission I did not lock on too anything else but the torus's. I did lock on to dragons but that was when I was making my way back to the torus, I thought I'd kill a few while im at it. This mission was fairly difficult, I almost died for the first time. But not because it was controlling the dragons difficult, just plain ol' challenging. Wich a lot of people want from a game.

This game has amazing graphics, in game and cut scene. You can freakin' see the pores on peoples faces!

The sound in this game is very good. So far, the background music in okay, nothing spectacular.

My complaint, sometime there is to much cut scenes during a battle, could ruin the flow of the battle. Most of the time its to set up your next objective.

And what I have to say for naysayers and worries. If you are good with the sixaxis and were planning to pick this up but got worried about reviews. Get it! Its great fun.

And for people who just hate sixaxis, don't buy it. Download the demo when it comes out.

Im also going to right a review for the lair profile.

Well i got to stop typing as my arm is starting to hurt from playing lair so much to coming and typing this big thing.

Author:   Red 9
Date:   Oct 2, 07 at 12:15am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Well, rather than copying my whole review into here, I thought I'd just link you guys to it.

My Lair Review

If you don't want to read it, then I'll just say it gets a 4.9/5. Which is about equal to a 9.8/10, or a 98/100, or whatever. But by all means, please read it.

Author:   Guticb
Date:   Oct 2, 07 at 9:38pm (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
I also posted a Lair review.

I loved the game, though it wasn't perfect.

Author:   Red 9
Date:   Oct 3, 07 at 2:56am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
I wholeheartedly concur.

For the record, I still have yet to come across a "perfect" game, so us saying it isn't perfect isn't a travesty.

Author:   Drewie
Date:   Oct 5, 07 at 1:24am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Wow guys, good to see you are enjoying the game too. I mean whats up with all these low scores for this game from the big end reviewers!? They couldn't be playing the same game I have been for the last week. It rocks hard in everyway.

So much so I gotta go burn me some foot soldiers and kill me some more dragons - loves it. Hell yeah die you stinking black dragon - yeah dash sideways - rah - got you good.

Author:   Red 9
Date:   Oct 5, 07 at 2:22am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Lol, the second part of your post made me laugh, Drewie.

But yeah, I think the reviewers just aren't willing to adapt to new things. Who blames them, what with all the FPS's coming out these days.

Author:   Rapstyle
Date:   Oct 8, 07 at 2:13pm (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
I don't know why the game isn't really good.

Author:   Subzer0
Date:   Oct 14, 07 at 7:56pm (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Because the controls are horrible. Other than the controls, the game is pretty good. The reviewers were too hard on it imo.

Author:   Red 9
Date:   Oct 15, 07 at 11:17pm (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
ANd what is your point exactly, Subzero?

"The controls are terrible, but the game is good". If you say the controls are terrible, that automatically means you are saying the game itself is terrible.

You can't hate the controls but like the game. If you hate the controls, you won't be able to play it, therefore hating the controls means hating the game.

Author:   Sapphire Dragon
Date:   Nov 4, 07 at 2:44am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
thank you for reading my mind! i got it, liked it so much i played it 12 hours strait one day, and beat it the next day.
The game's freakin amazing to six axis lovers. Point made.

Author:   Sapphire Dragon
Date:   Nov 4, 07 at 2:46am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
that, and i think dragon are awesome.

Author:   kinglank
Date:   Nov 7, 07 at 10:57am (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
Finally getting this game in 2 days and i can't wait have been annoyed that it kept getting delayed here in the uk so hurry up will post an honest review after the weekend hope it lives up to the hype i have given it

Author:   Coi Cki
Date:   Nov 7, 07 at 5:32pm (PST)
Subject:   re: My Lair Impressions (just bought the game)
So it's coming this Friday!? Yes! Finally! The wait is almost over. The main reason for me to get Lair is the SIXAXIS control.

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