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Author:   Ncjpr1993
Date:   Jan 30, 13 at 6:33pm (PST)
Subject:   SSD Question
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Good evening!

(Possibly useless introduction, skip below if too long)
I recently purchased an new graphics card in an attempt to comfortably max out some of this years more demanding releases, and while the performance has been phenomenal for the most part, there are a few little details I'm not too happy about. I can max out just about anything I own, but have had trouble with a couple titles here and there, namely: Far Cry 3, Crysis 3 MP Beta, ARMA II, Max Payne 3, and The Witcher 2. I understand these are demanding titles, but my rig seemed pretty well prepared to deal with them, and provides some pretty shoddy performance, the worst of the group being Far Cry 3 and ARMA II. The only one of these that really strains my CPU is Crysis 3, so I don't believe it's a bottleneck. So I was curious to see how buying an SSD would help me out.

While searching around, I was shocked at the general price range. I have a mere 300GB of my 1TB drive remaining, and that's not even my full Steam library. So, I was wondering if something along these lines was possible: could I potentially enjoy the performance increase of an SSD along side my current HDD? For example, if I stored my less demanding games on my HDD, and titles like Crysis 3 and ARMA II on the SSD, could I run those titles off of my SSD for a lesser hit on my performance?

If needed, my specs are as follows...

Phenom X4 955 @ 3.2 GHz
EVGA 4GB GTX 680 with recent beta drivers
12 GB RAM
Windows 7 x64

Much thanks in advance for any response!



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 30, 13 at 6:56pm (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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it's not the SSD. It's your CPU. That's the only part I can see that won't deal with those games on highest settings



Author:   walnuts
Date:   Jan 30, 13 at 7:14pm (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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Yeah, your CPU is not top tier enough to max out those games.



Author:   Ncjpr1993
Date:   Jan 30, 13 at 7:14pm (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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quote Crusad3r
it's not the SSD. It's your CPU. That's the only part I can see that won't deal with those games on highest settings
That's unfortunate. I was under the impression that unless the process was pushing your CPU usage near 100%; I clearly still have much to learn XD

Nonetheless, is this still possible with an SSD? If I was to upgrade my CPU, I would still be interested in any possible boost in performance.



Author:   Crusad3r
Date:   Jan 30, 13 at 7:20pm (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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SSDs improve loading and saving times, doesn't have anything to do with lag in game.



Author:   Ncjpr1993
Date:   Feb 01, 13 at 12:21pm (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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Ah, well thanks for the help! I suppose this thread can be closed whenever, due to its now clearly useless nature.



Author:   bakabaka
Date:   Feb 01, 13 at 12:48pm (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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Just to confirm, if it's a network game the lag will be due to network connections rather than an SSD.
I did a side by side comparison of Starcraft 2 on HDD vs SSD... the results were amazing. Unfortunately Diablo 3 loads from battlenet.
SSDs are definitely great when the content loads from the drive.



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Feb 02, 13 at 7:13am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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if you intend on upgrading your CPU, try overclocking first. that should be able to give you a decent enough boost that you can get closer to maxing out your games.



Author:   Randome
Date:   Feb 02, 13 at 8:33am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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Ncjpr1993 I would get an additional hard drive too, so you could have all your Steam stuff on it. Sounds like another 1 TB is in order.



Author:   Ncjpr1993
Date:   Feb 04, 13 at 8:50am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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quote hiigaran
if you intend on upgrading your CPU, try overclocking first. that should be able to give you a decent enough boost that you can get closer to maxing out your games.
I overclock a little bit, and still don't receive optimal performance on more demanding titles. I believe upgrading is the only solution at this point, but thanks for the suggestion!

quote bakabaka
Just to confirm, if it's a network game the lag will be due to network connections rather than an SSD.
I did a side by side comparison of Starcraft 2 on HDD vs SSD... the results were amazing. Unfortunately Diablo 3 loads from battlenet.
SSDs are definitely great when the content loads from the drive.
While the bulk of my problems do lie in the online-only Crysis 3 beta, I do know it is not a connection problem, as my ping for this and most other online games is generally under 60.

I suppose while this thread is still up, I can throw an additional question at those willing to answer. So, if I was to buy an SSD, could I have Fraps save my game footage to the SSD to save performance while recording?



Author:   bakabaka
Date:   Feb 04, 13 at 8:59am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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Reads and Writes to an SSD are much faster than a HDD. If I were in your shoes and had the budget, I'd have my OS and apps/games load from an SSD and a 1TB HDD hosting my mp3s, mp4s, etc.
Essentially its a waste of time and performance to store large files that are rarely accessed onto an SSD. You pay too much per GB for that. Save big fiels there upfront then send them to a HDD later on.



Author:   Ncjpr1993
Date:   Feb 04, 13 at 9:13am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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quote bakabaka
Reads and Writes to an SSD are much faster than a HDD. If I were in your shoes and had the budget, I'd have my OS and apps/games load from an SSD and a 1TB HDD hosting my mp3s, mp4s, etc.
Essentially its a waste of time and performance to store large files that are rarely accessed onto an SSD. You pay too much per GB for that. Save big fiels there upfront then send them to a HDD later on.

That's what I figured I would do if anything, but it sounds like I may hold of on the purchase of an SSD in favor of a new CPU. Speaking of which, any ideas how the Phenom II X6 1100T would perform on more demanding games? Unfortunately, it appears my Motherboard only supports AM3 sockets, and the above-mention CPU seems to be the best available option without upgrading my motherboard.



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Feb 04, 13 at 9:14am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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processing performance > load times. priorities, dude.



Author:   Ncjpr1993
Date:   Feb 04, 13 at 9:30am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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quote hiigaran
processing performance > load times. priorities, dude.
Needless to say, but initially, I was under the impression that because I had to play my Steam games off of my HDD, an SSD would bring a significant performance boost.



Author:   hiigaran
Date:   Feb 04, 13 at 10:05am (PST)
Subject:   re: SSD Question
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only in loading. you can have the worlds fastest SSD, and still get horrible FPS in games. the IN GAME performance is affected by processing power.


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